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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

5 ^- @( l0 e. x5 q! ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) N# Y4 Q5 {8 K5 l

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* V+ r" _3 N5 |6 K& k9 q1 n7 L
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" C5 Y$ p3 W3 W* Q4 o1 P7 g) m

9 H. Q- w( n, o5 H$ M6 c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 I) e4 B5 U+ \9 W- N

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* A& S! I5 s# o" O
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) K; L0 i0 c6 S2 Y/ A& ~* n+ g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 ^+ U3 v6 r# E% W7 X5 `4 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 r, O" y4 L4 [+ ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 a! a1 K( ?# q% D

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ Z; k) q8 ]7 b& c$ c

( N' B6 _1 F; P, a# zyes, that's the point.

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' H3 T3 {& O3 C7 t/ e  F陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......