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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- x. y/ t; A# ^7 X) r8 x

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 \' t$ u) P, P8 \) U
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 Y  g# S% [: t2 W; o3 p$ FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 n" R3 g9 q( b/ T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 v, a) j0 |- _$ Y/ \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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( e: d. B  Y  U8 [4 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( D, j+ g3 n: e* h! v. q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 F+ _1 T/ w1 G6 `& x

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 R  o# {& E, d) Y2 [; FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 Q( L( z$ \( M
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ ]4 c, O# _4 ~7 U* b

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 m3 X2 p* Z5 ?* \

9 k7 N; F$ C7 K7 Uyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......