jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:7 u  x& k; g% i) b
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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! d8 k  e4 Q( b9 P. M9 Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 K) Q! I' W4 Dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 U9 |8 ^0 `+ \9 o# w. C8 M/ i& a0 `
why this happen? just simple........punishment; l0 J4 D# Q  z5 `7 t3 e; D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ b4 |& F' ^+ b* l8 Ebut why jesus need to do this?- H7 S( s  n" f2 W
punsihment for what???% N& r7 G% t* d0 m8 k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 h3 C0 l/ G& Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( I& q; i: g- f6 X; |4 f0 a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ I* e- w) y1 L, ?2 r0 vwhat will u do???
' S+ |( }: ]- m* ?4 ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# u, h# Z) X1 o* _: p; p

9 n5 l& O+ o0 ]1 t; l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 d6 Q# ?/ i2 u6 C" `# _5 o  @  ^
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! r1 ]# D+ d, t; _5 F  o3 r/ U2 bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& `# D" g% i' b/ k1 u( _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 ^% ~7 d3 M! C- u
why this happen? just simple........punishment; ~& M. ]" H! z1 C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , s3 }/ m% ?/ n
but why jesus need to do this?
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9 s1 g! |" a1 L" v9 X; L; F8 i4 K5 ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. j5 L# c( A9 ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  W1 N" d! N! x* L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   D- t0 H( |  B$ Z  R( s
what will u do???
5 t5 j: Z2 @$ E, n- f* C) h( Bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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! @% }3 i- ?5 [- y% e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' i! S4 k0 {$ Q( `7 a5 |
honestly, if there is jesus5 d( ]+ C; }3 Y, ]. \8 {  B0 ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# o, x, ]8 H2 B+ f* h
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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( s/ N( v, l) t7 @8 L0 Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 l+ h$ u( Y( [: S$ u7 G/ _! ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" H4 \% A0 _7 b
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ Q2 k$ M  L+ o6 {3 M
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
8 Y9 p% Q  Z, }) p- X) V6 ^bro singgeihot and rest365days& k2 u# _- m/ J$ B1 ^
honestly, if there is jesus
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. t8 [' G0 H8 Pwe can't blow him :cool:

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% Y0 z$ d' p9 E. @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 y- _1 X  v  F
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! W0 i6 Z. w( d! e, a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: