Originally posted by night at 2006-4-22 10:32 PM:
其他forum討論得好激
你地又點諗
Originally posted by pakho at 2006-4-22 10:35 PM:
唔覺喎~那球我不認為要踢出界兩個阿記球員雖然倒地,但傷勢不算嚴重
Originally posted by night at 2006-4-22 10:43 PM:
其實我都覺唔多需要停低.....
停比你就人情,唔停就道理姐
Originally posted by night at 2006-4-22 10:43 PM:
其實我都覺唔多需要停低.....
停比你就人情,唔停就道理姐
Originally posted by YUEN_LOUIS at 2006-4-22 22:47:
係爭出線歐聯階段,人情當唔到飯食
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-4-22 10:51 PM:
利益當先
Originally posted by pakho at 2006-4-22 10:49 PM:
何況阿記係自己友撞自己友......
熱刺球員其實都有留意佢兩個傷勢係點~
Originally posted by 艾力克 at 2006-4-22 10:57 PM:
this is the main point
如果係因...
Originally posted by night at 2006-4-22 10:54 PM:
所以熱刺真無做錯
可能有d阿迷會太激動...
Originally posted by adamjacky123 at 2006-4-22 11:14 PM:
博左成季先霸到呢個第4位,
踢個波出界~!? 當佢地傻架???
如果真係踢左個波出界輸1:0,
就等於掟歐冠 o個一億落街lu........
Originally posted by adamjacky123 at 2006-4-22 11:14 PM:
博左成季先霸到呢個第4位,
踢個波出界~!? 當佢地傻架???
如果真係踢左個波出界輸1:0,
就等於掟歐冠 o個一億落街lu........
Originally posted by Kian76 at 2006-4-22 11:18 PM:
最正呢句:
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Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-22 23:21:
所以體育精神真係好寶貴..試過有一...
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-22 11:21 PM:
所以體育精神真係好寶貴..試過有一...
Originally posted by 艾力克 at 2006-4-22 11:31 PM:
好感人
可惜冇睇過
仲有好似fowler入左波, 跟住自己走去同球證講話唔計, 又係冇睇過
Originally posted by 艾力克 at 2006-4-22 11:31 PM:
好感人
可惜冇睇過
仲有好似fowler入左波, 跟住自己走去同球證講話唔計, 又係冇睇過
Originally posted by Xtravagant at 2006-4-22 11:40 PM:
我對住秋兄果陣都好有體育精神架。你有沒留意最尾果幾日﹐我呢邊有人吾出得。拒果邊即刻又有個沒出場 幾公平 ~
Originally posted by kakeidevil at 2006-4-22 11:29 PM:
迪肯尼奧好似攞過體育精神獎。
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-22 11:44 PM:
個場係阿仙奴對利記, 科拿係禁區同...
Originally posted by 清揚 at 2006-4-22 11:54 PM:
熱刺為左歐聯真系殺人放火都可能會做~...
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:03 AM:
兩間球會係世仇黎
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-22 11:21 PM:
所以體育精神真係好寶貴..試過有一...
Originally posted by 清揚 at 2006-4-22 11:54 PM:
熱刺為左歐聯真系殺人放火都可能會做~...
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:03 AM:
兩間球會係世仇黎
Originally posted by Kian76 at 2006-4-23 12:07 AM:
但分別在於真係佢整傷對手,唔係對手鬼打鬼。
2000年12月英超韋斯咸對愛華頓的聯賽,一向生性火爆、脾氣暴燥的迪肯尼奧,令全世界球迷眼前一亮。當時韋斯咸球員在右路禁區進攻,愛華頓門將保羅謝拉特出迎時扭傷膝蓋,在草地上動彈不得,面對空門的迪肯尼奧接應來球,卻像守門員般跳起,雙手接穩了皮球,讓球賽中止,好讓軍醫可以入場治理。這個另類的經典手球,令韋斯咸無法全取三分,令迪肯尼奧遭領隊責難,但經此役後,迪肯尼奧在不少球迷的心目中,由一匹野性難馴的「臭馬」,變成了有情有義、不喜歡勝之不武的「義氣仔女」,其後還取得了國際足協頒發公平競技獎。
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:16 AM:
詳細情形同我印象中有D出入, 太耐唔係記得好清楚
YAHOO當年新聞稿
Originally posted by 清揚 at 2006-4-22 11:54 PM:
熱刺為左歐聯真系殺人放火都可能會做~!
先公開話阿仙奴win左歐聯而令佢地冇份踼會用法律去告足協及阿仙奴,明搞大件事,而家又整單咁既野出黎,恨踼歐聯可理解,但不扎手段去搶個席位不可寬恕,身為英倫球會見到同國兼同市球會扲到歐聯冠軍應該開心low~!唔開心都唔好掃人興ㄚ.........
Originally posted by stereo at 2006-4-23 12:23 AM:
若然其他英倫球會和球迷見到一隊全外援既阿仙奴win左歐聯,真係唔知開唔心開心得落。
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-23 12:22 AM:
真係唔覺得熱刺有錯囉~
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:26 AM:
佢無錯, 個入球係合法. 但體育精神係屬於道德層面, 每個人都有唔同標準. 法同情有時係無得拗..
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-23 12:31 AM:
我亦唔覺得熱刺呢球係冇體育精神囉,...
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-23 12:31 AM:
我亦唔覺得熱刺呢球係冇體育精神囉,...
Originally posted by Kian76 at 2006-4-23 12:35 AM:
若果真係要咁聽話踢走個波先有人性,咁呢招都好霸道,對手一單刀就自己撞自己,對手局住踢走個波,唔踢走就要俾人插冇體育精神。哈哈!!
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:36 AM:
雲加持相反意見
Wenger clearl...
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:36 AM:
雲加持相反意見
Wenger clearl...
Originally posted by Kian76 at 2006-4-23 12:39 AM:
咁好正常,望都唔望咪仲冇人性??一望覺得你扮野就真係彩你都有味。
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:45 AM:
係阿仙奴眼中呢一望變成假動作呃哂佢地
Originally posted by Kian76 at 2006-4-23 12:46 AM:
在熱刺眼中你的詐傷等如假動作想呃佢地
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:49 AM:
睇你點睇
ANYWAY熱刺唔停無錯..怪就怪阿仙奴"期望"錯左..
Originally posted by night at 2006-4-23 01:10 AM:
用體育精神果方面睇熱刺,熱刺就唔岩......
爭第4咁諗就睬你都傻.......
兩睇既姐
Originally posted by lookityourself at 2006-4-23 04:10 PM:
sorry
發生咩事??
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 01:21:
所以體育精神真係好寶貴..試過有一...
Originally posted by stereo at 2006-4-23 02:38:
小弟全場都好留心睇,事發時見到球證...
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 00:49:
睇你點睇
ANYWAY熱刺唔停無錯..怪就怪阿仙奴"期望"錯左..
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-23 06:46 PM:
阿記咁講體育精神
令我諗起亨利幾次...
Originally posted by 雷公 at 2006-4-23 10:44:
最攪笑係大家都話球證無吹停就繼續
點知有熱刺球員訓低左,熱刺即刻將個波踢出界
好野!!!!!!!!!,球證都無吹停
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-23 06:50 PM:
咁熱刺自己踢走個波
有乜問題?
球證吹唔吹
熱刺控球在腳都有權點踢個波架啦
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-23 18:52:
咪係,佢鍾意既話可以射返自己龍門
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-23 06:56 PM:
等自己個門將唔好太得閒
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-23 06:46 PM:
阿記咁講體育精神
令我諗起亨利幾次...
Originally posted by 艾力克 at 2006-4-23 07:12 PM:
阿仙奴攞過體育精神獎 (好似係前年)
對自己要求高, 對人地自然要求高
Originally posted by brightlee at 2006-4-23 04:57 PM:
I watched the game too
I think the whole incident, I would blame Martin Jol, the manager of Spurs
Yes, Henry and Eboub were colladed together.
Then Michael Carrick got the ball and stood on the sideline for 3 seconds.
Martin Jol yelled him to play on
Then he clicked the ball to someone, then passed to Eagar Davids.
Davids setup the ball to Robbie Keane to score a goal
I won't blame Eagar Davids and Robbie Keane
They did their jobs.....
That's no doubt for an offensive team.
You could see why Arsene Wenger yelled Martin Jol after that incident.
and he just left the field after the game.........
That's stupid for Martin Jol to change the atmosphere in really bad conditions.......
Lucky that's no any Worst incident at the end
Think about in NBA, Detroit and Indian are playing carefully now if they are playing together......
Sometimes, yes, that's OK to be enemies from history.
But that's weird to put oil into water.....
Originally posted by adamjacky123 at 2006-4-23 08:19 PM:
阿仙奴攞過體育精神獎!?
ic......
Herry最有體育精神lo....快射罰球免得拖延時間.......
Originally posted by bigfish at 2006-4-24 06:05 PM:
某程度上, 阿仙奴班外援係破壞英格蘭足壇體育精神o既元兇
以往英格蘭足球向以勇而不茅見稱, 但加入左外援後就有少少變質
Originally posted by brightlee at 2006-4-24 14:51:
let me to listen it when I come home later today, ok?
thanks for your link
Originally posted by 76 at 2006-4-24 19:28:
如果羅比堅尼單刀....列文自己撞埋門拄度爆光.....gum 應唔應該踢個波出界?
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-24 11:57 PM:
咁又唔好用呢個比喻
應該話如果...
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-24 11:57 PM:
咁又唔好用呢個比喻
應該話如果...
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-25 12:27 AM:
講玩角球旗,快開罰球呢d阿仙奴真係...
Originally posted by pakho at 2006-4-25 12:31 AM:
多謝讚賞,阿記角球旗玩野真係有一手
Originally posted by chowkit at 2006-4-25 12:47 AM:
熱刺無做錯
Originally posted by bigfish at 2006-4-25 02:23:
阿仙奴今季真係好可能兩頭唔到岸, 上年利記踢出英格蘭足球, 今年o係阿記身上睇唔到
Originally posted by brightman at 2006-4-23 12:16 AM:
詳細情形同我印象中有D出入, 太耐唔係記得好清楚
YAHOO當年新聞稿
2000年12月英超韋斯咸對愛華頓的聯賽,一向生性火爆、脾氣暴燥的迪肯尼奧,令全世界球迷眼前一亮。當時韋斯咸球員在右路禁區進攻,愛華頓門將保羅謝拉特出迎時扭傷膝蓋,在草地上動彈不得,面對空門的迪肯尼奧接應來球,卻像守門員般跳起,雙手接穩了皮球,讓球賽中止,好讓軍醫可以入場治理。這個另類的經典手球,令韋斯咸無法全取三分,令迪肯尼奧遭領隊責難,但經此役後,迪肯尼奧在不少球迷的心目中,由一匹野性難馴的「臭馬」,變成了有情有義、不喜歡勝之不武的「義氣仔女」,其後還取得了國際足協頒發公平競技獎。
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公平競技、體育精神值得學習及尊重
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先答球迷偉倫(他在電郵的名字是Wai Lun Yip)的問題,熱刺上周六1-0領先阿仙奴的入球,究竟合理嗎?我的回答頗百份之一百向維拉利爾領隊比歷連尼抄橋,他說「我相信及尊重公平競技的原則,如果有球員受傷,敵隊隊員應把球踢出界。」「但當維拉利爾作客阿仙奴,當我隊有球員受傷,雲加曾並不想其隊員把球踢出界。」「事實上,在其他比賽中,真有球隊詐傷來阻止敵方進攻。」
記得12月車路士主場1-0擊敗韋根,賽後領隊摩連奴一力承擔地承認,他曾叫加拿斯不要在有韋根球員受傷倒地時停止進攻,因為他認為韋根球員在比賽中不停用詐傷來拖延時間,結果釀成摩連奴與韋根領隊祖維爾賽後的大罵戰。總括以上3位領隊的表現,這是一個觀點與角度的紛爭,但若以熱刺一球為例,熱刺領隊祖爾用他及他的球員由始至終都看不到阿仙奴有球員受傷(伊保爾及基拔圖施華)為理由繼續進攻,兼入波領先1-0,就極不合理及愚蠢;其實這個回應等同承認錯誤,但熱刺自知祖爾理虧,而球賽的其中殘酷一面,是當球証長雞一鳴,比數都已百份之九十九被蓋棺定論,祖爾馬田希望外界接受熱刺有一再和阿仙奴的能力(首循環兩隊亦是和波),盡快淡忘領先入1-0的過程,企圖大事化小,小事盡快化無。
但大家別忘記,英超聯的角色等同明星效應,表面上他們的行為可只侷限於職業操守範疇,但在年青球迷眼中,就可能成為正面或負面的學習方向;國際足協每年都頒公平競爭獎,讚揚球員的體育精神,早有迪肯尼奧、近有迪羅斯的得獎最為球迷熟悉,迪肯尼奧因有敵方球員受傷,不惜在禁區犯手球不接應隊友橫傳去攻門,而迪羅斯本季亦承認其入球是犯手球在先,令球証正確地判入球無效,都是值得年青球員學習的對象。
回看熱刺入球情況,伊保爾、施華相撞後,卡域克在邊界前得球,他猶豫了1至2秒,無可能不見受傷情況,當時我懷疑有熱刺人員從旁提醒他應繼續進攻,而老將戴維斯又立即走位接應,才有這個入球出現,在此我的意見是,熱刺這入球是不夠體育精神的。
99年足總盃第5圈,主場的阿仙奴以1-0擊敗錫菲聯,當時仍效力阿仙奴的簡奴,在有錫菲聯球員受傷時仍然繼續進攻,結果奧華馬斯射入,但當時阿仙奴願意以體育精神為本,進行重賽,結果重賽阿仙奴再以2-1贏錫菲聯;在此有個奇想,甚至是希望,如果熱刺願意為剛周六的比賽進行重賽,是多麼美好的一個表現。
阿仙奴今晚在歐聯準決賽第二回合作客對維拉利爾,有幾點大家需要特別留意,其中蘇金保取代辛達路斯取回正選中堅位置,應該不令人擔心,因為蘇金保在休息兩個多月後,在之前聯賽對樸茨茅夫的表現甚為理想,可惜再因撞爆鼻樑而缺陣,如今鼻樑手術成功,他的上陣應予人有足夠安全感;但大家請留意,上回合表現不俗的左閘法明尼,及我認為是首回合最佳球員的基拔圖施華(他除令到以列基美為首的維拉利爾中場活力大減外,更有空檔可上前助攻射門3次),這兩名球員被迫疲兵再戰,在對熱刺一仗,明顯他們的轉數已大為下降。
此消彼長的,維拉利爾在上周末聯賽採犧牲態度對皇家蘇斯達,除門將韋亞拉外,非門將位置就只有科蘭在下半場後備入替,換言之其餘9個正選位置球員都得到充份休息,其中包括中堅位彭拿能夠傷癒復出,取代上仗因欠缺經驗而表現一般的亞素,將會令維拉利爾的防守,可有更穩健的表現,而古基之取代干沙路洛迪古斯,亦憑他已第7年效力維拉利爾的熟練,給人有足夠信心;惟維拉利爾有一缺口必要照顧,是右閘的查維雲達,以首回合整場90分鐘表現計,兩隊加起來以查維雲達的表現最差,其速度、轉身之慢,阿仙奴幾位曾在左路發難的球員都得到明顯勝仗,這是今日維拉利爾最需要注重的地方。
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-25 00:28:
如果係對方守衛撞落對方既守門員果度當然射啦,係佢地盲之嘛
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-25 23:10:
雲加會讚人?好難呀
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-26 00:32:
真係唔明,伊保爾有受傷咩?訓係度就一定受傷?
Originally posted by Ahchi at 2006-4-25 11:48 PM:
如果有球員為了令球証吹停而扮受傷,是否更無體育精神?
Originally posted by 細驚 at 2006-4-26 01:51:
睇返有線重播成場波(好唔中意重播賣廣...
Originally posted by abc123aa at 2006-4-26 01:58:
個球証應該有問伊保爾有冇事,結果球証都冇吹雞,好明顯球証知佢冇事同事件唔嚴重
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