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作者: Aivn 時間: 2006-11-8 10:47 PM 標題: 火箭點解打唔起?!

火箭點解打唔起?!
相信唔少人同我一樣,
因為鍾意姚明, 又或者因為佢係中國人,
加上t-mac,
而鍾意火箭!!

但又對佢地好失望...
點解咁唔穩定?
點解時好時壞?
點解遇弱越弱?

原因有好多,
但我想講其中一個,
雲根迪教練唔夠班!!
佢係一個好人,
但唔係一個好教練...

大家點睇?!

作者: feuosma 時間: 2006-11-8 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Aivn at 2006-11-8 22:47:
火箭點解打唔起?!
相信唔少人同我一...

其實依家2-2...都未至於太差.....

最大原因係T-mac未打番起....呢幾場都係得我地國寶頂住...

另外後備球員仍未能提供足夠支援....
依家反而最主要睇Battier既表現...佢打得好.....果場火箭就有機....如果唔係....

...
呢個情況要等T-mac重新打起先會改變.....
同埋依家West既球隊對於火箭實在太強....除左原本果幾隊....仲有強化左既Jazz...
我覺得佢地今年都係季後賽架炸....

作者: -o- 時間: 2006-11-8 11:23 PM

火箭上季...成日都冇咁件..
一時就t-mac傷..一時就姚明傷...
今季頭就輪到t-mac冇態....
就係唔可以兩全其美...

作者: Aivn 時間: 2006-11-8 11:45 PM

我至驚就係d球員打得起,
但個coach唔掂!

作者: 阿感 時間: 2006-11-8 11:48 PM

姚明同T-MAC根本唔應該同隊
因為姚明係一個可以帶起成隊波O既球員
T-MAC係可以一個人撐起成隊波O既球員
兩個一齊,O徒左

作者: loklok117 時間: 2006-11-9 12:07 AM

我睇你果post時以為你話你條{火箭}打唔起

x100

作者: Rated-R 時間: 2006-11-9 12:11 AM

1.後備得Head人才
2.快攻手wells傷左未復元
3.得分太注重1-2個人

作者: locklock 時間: 2006-11-9 12:51 AM

其實主因在於姚明這一點上，大家可以留意，當姚明換下場，便會自然激起對手士氣，
因為無敵的高舉高打離了場，大家自然可以放心爆籃上籃，對手真係可以打到識飛。
其實要解決這個問題，就一定不可以沒有姚明的相同高度替補，但現今的火箭又有誰來當這位？
所以通常一隊強隊都不會只有一個勁的中鋒，一定會有一些相同的替補來離補二隊的不足。
就算那個中鋒比不上一隊的那一個，也不至於突然又高個子陣轉變成全小個子陣捱打。

火箭的得分仍然只集中在默基迪和姚明這兩點，默平均可以拿３０分左右，
而姚明亦大概是３０之內，平均拿２５左右，他們二人發揮水平之上，也只可以拿６０分，
試問６０分又怎能達致勝利的目標？最少也要有三個至四個能拿１０分左右的人，才可以保證
完場的勝利，但如今的火箭又有誰可以做到這一個目標？侯活拿１０分，也只可以到７０分，
其實改善這點就要從合作方面著手，不能只打死姚默二人，他們要多分球，多單檔，大家可以
留意現在打姚明這一點，十分古怪，一是傳給他轉身射球或上籃，二是來回傳球再由姚明完成轉身上籃，
但其實姚明應該個人不上，再回傳外圍，用投射完成終結會較好。這樣會減少姚明
體力下降的問題，繼而再另球隊內的得分點增多，

默基迪現在的打法沒有問題，只要不受傷，
而球隊的得分點增多，今年的火箭便有機會打入季後賽，但如果在姚明這一點上浪費太多體力，
而另姚明受傷，火箭想入季後賽又可能要再等多一年了，現在隊內有一個新希臘球員，他的功
夫也不錯，只要他能完成每場入１０這目標，姚３０黙３０侯１０希臘１０，其他每人入多幾
個單位數，咁就為之ＶＥＲＹ　ＧＯＯＤ了。

其實雲根迪一早已知自家球隊入球不足的問題，所以他在防守方面大做文章，都是希望
另對手的得分停在９０以下，這樣火箭現時的得分點也有望和對手一併，但這一招在
今年好像有點管不上用，因為有多隊球隊都開始成熟，得分點亦多了，試問又怎能另對手
入球少於９０這個數？長遠仍是要自強增多得分點才是上策。

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作者: yesiam 時間: 2006-11-9 01:02 AM

其實好簡單, 姚明並唔係大家所諗咁勁, T-Mac 要等佢著火上身, 其他得分點又少, 所以最大原因係教練, 唔識選人. 宜家已經唔係一兩條 Ace 就可以稱霸既年代, 大家如果想見到火箭掂, 起碼要等幾年, 等D球員約滿, 有番D空間換人, 除非有球隊肯換, 不過D咁既質數換番來既都好極有限.

作者: PG-13 時間: 2006-11-9 01:06 AM

Originally posted by yesiam at 2006-11-9 01:02 AM:
其實好簡單, 姚明並唔係大家所諗咁勁,...

just by statistic, he is the best center last season ...

作者: locklock 時間: 2006-11-9 01:09 AM

Originally posted by yesiam at 2006-11-9 01:02 AM:
其實好簡單, 姚明並唔係大家所諗咁勁,...

當年馬刺用了一招賤招，就是叫羅賓遜打到好似食糞咁，等馬刺成積薦底，
目的就是為了換一個鄧肯回來。最後雙塔成功奪冠，羅賓遜也老懷安慰。

其姚黙都可以咁做，只要他們上年的傷病再早一點，可能可以換來一個大帝占士！

[ Last edited by locklock on 2006-11-9 at 01:13 AM ]

作者: Aivn 時間: 2006-11-9 02:00 AM

Originally posted by loklok117 at 2006-11-9 12:07 AM:
我睇你果post時以為你話你條{火箭}打唔起x100

haha,
雖然我成日蒲<港男>jei,
又唔好諗到我咁~
我鞭鞭有力呀兄弟!!

作者: Aivn 時間: 2006-11-9 02:02 AM

Originally posted by locklock at 2006-11-9 01:09 AM:

當年馬刺用了一招賤招，就是叫羅賓...

好一個羅賓遜食糞!!!
hahaha

作者: asurada001 時間: 2006-11-9 02:44 AM

my opinion....
lack of depth behind Yao Ming, T-Mac, Battier, Alston....
the bench is not deep enough or don't have the experience yet....
they better hope Bonzi Wells getting back to shape soon....
depth is important in the West.
I think they can compete for a playoffs spot, but not elite team in the west this year...
it's up to the players behind Yao Ming and T-mac to perform...

作者: bioamen 時間: 2006-11-9 10:29 AM

the offensive strategies r not suitable houston....as u all know...jeff van gundy is a stubborn coach...he's known for his deffensive mind set...not offence...since the problem houston facing now is lack of offensive diversity...therefore...jeff van gundy does not know wat 2 do with the team....

if u pay attention 2 houston's offensive set....it's always yao comes out from the low post...set a high post screen 4 the guard...and just do a simple pick and roll.....or....the guard comes off the pick...he eithe does one on on with the miss match...or dish the ball 2 mcgrady at the wing...and he'll let yao gets the position down the low post and dish the balll.....or again...does one on one.........( the team might do a litto bit more than that...but at the end..it's still around yao or tracy 2 finish the play )

come on now.....any average teams can deffend that easily....the play is 2 simple....waste yao's energy for setting 2 many high post screen....and 2 much outside shooting (and i bet u all know houston's mid-range shooting % is only around 45%)....if they don't improve on this...they'll never b successful..

in my opinion...houston and miami r the same type of team....both team got a tremendous center...and a guard...y is miami a better team....it all come down 2 team chemistry...and i think houston as even better players than miami....and i bet if houston got a coach that can balance out offenence and deffence, and a better management staff that knows how 2 select the rite player 4 the team...we'll c houston in the finals!!!!

作者: tree728 時間: 2006-11-10 08:05 AM

Originally posted by locklock at 2006-11-9 01:09 AM:

當年馬刺用了一招賤招，就是叫羅賓...

其實上年火箭都用左D"賤招" 都去到尾4-5嫁啦
可惜最頭個3個新人都拎唔到

火箭打唔起?
上年火箭滿心歡氣換左史偉夫同Alston 返黎
打算大展拳腳點知YAO  MING同T-M輪住傷
史偉夫又打唔起真係喊都無眼淚

今年仲打唔起?
今年史偉夫換左Shane Battier返黎
Battier只要打返之前既水平
YAO  MING同T-M身體健康的話
火箭好大機會打得起既

但係打得起唔=贏到總冠軍
今年火箭都係用個打內線打YAO MING既方法
有波就比YAOMING  由他射
第一 YAOMING高跑得比其它人慢
第二單打YAOMING只會令球隊進攻點單一其它球員好似綠葉咁失去射波既手感
(當年既湖人同今日既熱火都唔係ONLY打奥尼而啦)
第三板凳無深度長遠好不利一但有球員傷左就無咩有卡士既人

睇下大家打起既定義係咩    如果係指打得比上年好
今年好大機會而指贏到總冠軍今年就微D啦

[ Last edited by tree728 on 2006-11-10 at 08:07 AM ]

作者: Xtravagant 時間: 2006-11-10 08:09 AM

Originally posted by bioamen at 2006-11-9 10:29 AM:
the offensive strategies r not suit...

wow... Ur analysis seem to be very convincing.

Do u write for YAHOO!Sports ?

作者: bioamen 時間: 2006-11-11 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Xtravagant at 2006-11-10 08:09 AM:

wow... Ur analysis seem to be very convincing.

Do u write for YAHOO!Sports ?

haha//^^ no...but i think i just watched 2 much bball..haha^^V thx anways..

作者: 我愛章小慧 時間: 2006-11-11 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Aivn at 2006-11-9 02:02 AM:

好一個羅賓遜食糞!!!
hahaha

羅賓遜當年不是有傷嗎???

作者: wai214 時間: 2006-11-14 09:21 PM

Originally posted by locklock at 2006-11-9 01:09 AM:

當年馬刺用了一招賤招，就是叫羅賓...

Robison was injuryed and out for that whole season...that's why the spurs was winningless...

even you say they are meant to do that, how could they guarantee they gonna have the No.1 pick in the draft night?

作者: Kian76 時間: 2006-11-14 09:24 PM

T-mac應該難以再演30分一場了。佢既背和滕唔會容許佢咁做。

作者: wai214 時間: 2006-11-14 09:26 PM

Alston + T-Mac + Battier + Yao is already a very good team, Van Gundy is a good coach as well

I think if Houston can have someone like Kurt Thomas or P.J Brown to spread the defense for Yao and someone like D.Jones or Krover, to it will enough to get them to the championship ring

作者: supereason 時間: 2006-11-24 03:51 PM

其他人支援不到姚麥

作者: 王晶 時間: 2006-11-24 04:54 PM

其實比較擔心火箭d後備力量
正選5個幾勁都好都總有失準受傷既時候
特別係內線 yao 傷左火箭就真係大lan獲
莫湯保40歲點有可能打哂全場

作者: ASPP 時間: 2006-11-30 09:48 PM

後備gei質素差支
好難支援得到d正選

作者: bigfish 時間: 2006-11-30 10:21 PM

trade 走姚明, 換澳洲狀元 bogut 就有機

作者: ylc301403 時間: 2006-12-1 08:53 AM

Just a 2 man team
No way

作者: mwj2003 時間: 2006-12-1 01:51 PM

好人并不一定是好教練

作者: Rated-R 時間: 2006-12-1 02:01 PM

Originally posted by bigfish at 2006-11-30 22:21:
trade 走姚明, 換澳洲狀元 bogut 就有機

收la,好一個籃足球都亂up一通既極品

作者: yuzhiliang111 時間: 2006-12-1 02:10 PM

我覺得火箭隊應該換一個更加優秀的教練拉。

作者: atimsi 時間: 2006-12-2 11:50 PM

我讲最基本的原因：自从奥尼尔统治篮下以后，NBA努力尝试用规则让强力的中锋获得更少的机会得分进攻以及防守。（后果，越来越少人能够胜任中锋的位置！）
在另一方面，由于中锋的缺位（大部分球队已经没有传统意义的中锋），所以更加追求“快速”，抢断，配合。
所以姚明可以一场拿好多分，但系好难赢球。因为你打一次的时间，对手可以打两次，甚至三次的进攻，以速度战高度（太阳典型）绝对有前提，就是获得抢断及防守篮板
NBA变得越快速，与FIBA的差距就越大！！

作者: lokchi2004 時間: 2006-12-3 12:27 AM

教練唔得

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