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作者: pchong 時間: 2007-8-20 11:45 AM 標題: 講下車仔個十二碼

我自己覺得唔應該吹,12碼對利物浦真係不公平.

依一分對車路士真係重要非常.

一來四隊都同時失分.

二來和利物浦係作客.

作者: Jeans 時間: 2007-8-20 11:48 AM

球證錯誤,,,,,

作者: saronabc 時間: 2007-8-20 11:51 AM

it is just terrible

作者: Cypress168 時間: 2007-8-20 11:55 AM

1. 加歷查查本踢唔中馬隆達
2. 馬隆達跳起左連波連腳避開晒
3. 馬隆達在沒控球情況下跳起撞落人到

=我唔明球證可以吹乜Q!?

作者: SPACE2007 時間: 2007-8-20 12:04 PM

其實馬路達都唔係博12碼, 純粹想讓個波俾杜奧巴, 杜奧巴都準備拎波射, 係球證突然吹, 大家都呆左, 咁車路士, 有12碼就梗射啦, 踢波比賽, 有時好難講, 有時你好彩, 有時人好彩, 有人的地方, 就有d控制唔到的因素

作者: pchong 時間: 2007-8-20 12:05 PM

英超球證水平真係冇意大利咁好

作者: pchong 時間: 2007-8-20 12:08 PM

唔知係唔係我主觀,雖然我都鐘意車仔,佢地好多時都幾好彩

作者: coolyiceman 時間: 2007-8-20 12:39 PM

無睇到
不過開左個和波~~~
可以收$$

作者: pchong 時間: 2007-8-20 01:12 PM

而家睇番
http://soccer.rubbishman.net/clip.php?action=play&cid=1267

作者: 5m 時間: 2007-8-20 01:12 PM

Originally posted by coolyiceman at 2007-8-20 12:39 PM:
無睇到
不過開左個和波~~~
可以收$$

http://www.soccer.rubbishman.net ... n=play&cid=1267
去睇下torres的精彩

同睇下chelsea的好彩吧

作者: etxxxx 時間: 2007-8-20 02:01 PM

我覺得好正常.......

車仔咁有錢,有乜做唔出?

作者: leeyanta 時間: 2007-8-20 03:16 PM

錯過是足球的一部份嘛

作者: sky308 時間: 2007-8-20 03:37 PM

尋晚個球證唔得
丁偉傑講到扯哂火咁嘿嘿

作者: locklock 時間: 2007-8-20 04:45 PM

Originally posted by pchong at 2007-8-20 11:45 AM:
我自己覺得唔應該吹,12碼對利物浦真係不公平.
依一分對車路士真係重要非常.
一來四隊都同時失分.
二來和利物浦係作客.

問題精結，紅軍心紅，得一想二，攻防線被車仔拉開。
看看禁區犯禁一刻，紅軍後防如此多空位！
就算唔跌，傳左傳右都可以抽死連拿。１：１是遲早的事。
反而最後摩帥龜縮得幾咁明顯！點解賓帥唔可以龜縮？

　　　　　　　　　　　人類出世也是一個離開也是一個

[ Last edited by locklock on 2007-8-20 at 04:46 PM ]

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-8-20 04:49 PM

Originally posted by locklock at 2007-8-20 04:45 PM:

問題精結，紅軍心紅，得一想二，攻...

嘩, 阿lock哥你又想被人圍牙, 我發覺你真係身痕架wor...

作者: cwc_tkd 時間: 2007-8-20 04:59 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-20 04:49 PM:

嘩, 阿lock哥你又想被人圍牙, 我發覺你真係身痕架wor...

咦, 睇黎你等我咁bo..

作者: locklock 時間: 2007-8-20 05:05 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-20 04:49 PM:
嘩, 阿lock哥你又想被人圍牙, 我發覺你真係身痕架wor...

1:0可以接受，點解唔龜縮？因為要踢精彩既足球？
明知車仔打防反，輸波就一定猛鬼出籠。
上場車仔對雷丁咪又係猛鬼出籠。
這就是摩帥的精妙之處，一定唔會坐以代幣！
你可唔可以話我知，紅軍下半場變過Ｄ乜？
一直都打開個攻勢，一點兒收縮跡像都無。
但摩帥好明顯，谷你一谷，得就龜縮，唔得就收檔！
點解紅軍唔可以龜縮？賓師應該要學吓艾帥！

　　　　　　　　　　　人類出世也是一個離開也是一個

[ Last edited by locklock on 2007-8-20 at 05:09 PM ]

作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-8-20 05:33 PM

Originally posted by locklock at 2007-8-20 05:05 PM:

1:0可以接受，點解唔龜縮？因為要踢...

咁我又想問下, 車仔成場波做過d咩?

成場比人拑住黎打, 反攻零聲落索...

胡禮菲立斯出個靚波, 馬路達一漏, 杜奧巴窄位攞到波,
代表d咩?

a) 一定會入 b) 已經當入 c) 判12碼係摩連奴先生部署之內

其實我完全唔知利物浦有咩唔好, 怪只怪佢地浪費太多機會,
把握得好, 場波早已經2比0, 或3比0...

仲有你講咩"問題精結" 人地講緊果個12碼應唔應該判呀,
唔係講緊利物浦犯咩錯呀, "問題精結"係個球証超水準以下, 烏龍百出....

不如你試下答我下面2個問題, 消消利記fans果度氣啦...

1) 果12碼應唔應該判?
2) 車仔如果唔係果球12碼, 執唔執得番果一分?

答得唔好, 小心繼比曼聯友圍後, 再比利記fans圍呀...

作者: pchong 時間: 2007-8-20 05:40 PM

冇左12碼,車仔一定輸啦
佢地打得不知所謂

作者: locklock 時間: 2007-8-20 05:47 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-20 05:33 PM:
咁我又想問下, 車仔成場波做過...

就係正正你這種思想，另摩師有翻盤的機會！
如果紅軍死守不出，改打防反，３分一定到手！
所以點解賓帥打盃叻過打聯賽，因為好勝心強！

　　　　　　　　　　　人類出世也是一個離開也是一個
作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-8-20 05:51 PM

Originally posted by pchong at 2007-8-20 12:05 PM:
英超球證水平真係冇意大利咁好
我唔覺得, 就算光頭佬哥連拿, 都成日睇錯....

其實球証都係人, 電光火石, 走漏眼, 記錯野, 一時思維錯誤都係唔奇,
尤其中眉底彈落黎果d波, 我敢講10個球正10個都係斷估....

以前唔會有人話球証吹得屎, 因為以前d慢鏡無咁靚, 仲無咁多角度,
而家一錯, 大家已經睇到, 套用馬評人方駿輝精景既一句...

只要叫雞後唔洗30秒, 就全世界幾億人知道吹錯, 但只有場中幾條友唔知,
根本係一個大諷刺....

我覺得已經係時候引入錄像科技, 當球証睇唔到或有猶豫既時候,
可以問番上面既手足係咩情形, 上面有錄影帶睇既人唔係總球正,
佢地只係球証既助手, 一如旁証, 咁就不失球証既威嚴!!

而且更應該將球証高薪職業化, 高質素既球証同樣可以好似球員一樣,
有幾萬磅週薪, 再用評分制度黎配合, 盡量減少黑哨出現....

不過我知道講黎都side氣, 一個精片足球, 攪左幾年都未有野睇...
皆因國際足協, 歐洲足協, 係白禮達同柏天尼呢白痴做主席...

我開始好懷疑有生之年, 我見唔見到用錄像幫助球証....
作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-8-20 06:03 PM

Originally posted by locklock at 2007-8-20 05:47 PM:

就係正正你這種思想，另摩師有翻盤...
你咪同我玩啦, 上半場打到一劈屎咁, 成場比人拑住黎打,
一個正常既領隊都會, 下半場搶番d攻勢, 因為已經輸緊0比1,
攻有咩咁神奇, 唔通唔攻? 由得利物浦入多2 3球?

如果利物浦唔攻, 就更加講唔通, 成場主動, 90%攻勢來自主方,
下半場唔快d入多個燕疏球? 守?

曼城唔夠力攻曼聯, 好彩入左腳就應該守!!
就算佢地守, 都想入曼聯2比0, 無人好似你咁, 覺得1比0唔應該去...
講真我睇唔到車仔有咩反擊力, 根本係個球証送禮...

唔好睇完個戰果, 推算番個部署出黎啦, 而家和左1比1, 你咪咁講lor,
如果佢地守, 比番個中場車仔去攻, 輸左和左波, 你咪又會話佢點解縮lor...

睇番尋晚個勢, 我唔明點解要守唔去攻...
不過唔好爭論, 你同我開始離題...

人家講緊個12碼, 答我, 係咪誤判??
車仔無果球點球, 有無一分??
作者: kuru 時間: 2007-8-20 06:28 PM

1:1算好lu, 唔覺意比車仔贏埋仲唔抵
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-20 06:30 PM

尤其中眉底彈落黎果d波, 我敢講10個球正10個都係斷估....

As I am referee, I can tell you about this situation

Normally, I would look at the linesmen to confirm it's a goal or not
cos as referee, they will stay outside the penalty box except Penalty or Corner (even that's corner, referee should stay after penalty spot to have a board view
作者: locklock 時間: 2007-8-20 06:36 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-20 06:03 PM:
睇番尋晚個勢, 我唔明點解要守唔去攻...
不過唔好爭論, 你同我開始離題...
因為要尊重對手！見好就收！
其實賓帥同摩帥交過咁多次手！
昨晚賓帥死攻不收，主因要報回上季一敗之辱！
但大家心知肚明，賓帥有乜可能會大數車仔。
既然唔可以大勝，小勝都應該要收貨。
但係完場之時，賓帥還打手勢要再壓前Ｄ！
大佬，壓到出底線啦！重邊有得前呀！？

　　　　　　　　　　　人類出世也是一個離開也是一個
作者: fake2005 時間: 2007-8-20 07:14 PM

做大文豪辯論家做到走火入魔?

根本世事無絕對,
如果liverpool真係守然後又1:1,
你又可以話佢太保守,久守必失,
你呢d根本馬後炮!

你有無踢過波,打過比賽?
一場match我可以話氣勢佔好大部份,
隊波踢開順真係控波比波都得心應手好多,
liverpool就係呢個situation,
再加上車仔攻勢唔多,威脅又唔大,
我睇唔到有乜理由無啦啦要縮黎自己挫自己個勢.
作者: locklock 時間: 2007-8-20 07:21 PM

Originally posted by fake2005 at 2007-8-20 07:14 PM:
做大文豪辯論家做到走火入魔?根本...
如果你睇得車仔多，你就知佢地用"防反戰術"時，起點係係後場。
所以你會好煩厭，覺得佢比人壓住黎打，又無攻勢。
但係你睇多幾次就會知，佢地由後場造去前場既攻勢，一個就可以致命。

紅軍昨晚好大機會全取３分，只是賓帥要報回上季大敗之辱，
而另摩帥偷雞成功！論心計，摩帥又勝了賓帥一扙！

　　　　　　　　　　　人類出世也是一個離開也是一個

[ Last edited by locklock on 2007-8-20 at 07:23 PM ]
作者: fake2005 時間: 2007-8-20 07:55 PM

噗,
你話係就係啦.

凡事都係雙面刃,
事後評論而只放大負面果一面,
一定作到好多故事.

既然車仔主攻又得,反擊又可以一個就致命,
咁更加唔需要諗咁多啦,
果個form順咪繼續果個form囉.

根本到輸12碼果刻車仔都無好大空間,
連所謂後場發動counter既機會都唔多,
liverpool又無谷太上,
1:1純粹係一個非戰之罪.
作者: wcchan886 時間: 2007-8-20 08:43 PM

車仔失分,曼城3戰3勝0失球升上榜首,真係估佢唔到
作者: eric911 時間: 2007-8-20 09:09 PM

Originally posted by locklock at 2007-8-20 05:47 PM:

就係正正你這種思想，另摩師有翻盤...
好難講，賓帥買左咁多兵，個個都有番咁上下，心態上又好難同你縮，加上主場，不縮亦可理解。不過新聞話容祖兒其實已攞了兩張黃牌，但球證無趕他出場。
作者: locklock 時間: 2007-8-20 09:16 PM

Originally posted by eric911 at 2007-8-20 09:09 PM:
好難講，賓帥買左咁多兵，個個都...
你都有攞馬會份野！陳冠希好似阿倫史密夫！邊似呀！
佢話容祖兒係白版艾辛！咁又真係有幾分相似架！

　　　　　　　　　　　人類出世也是一個離開也是一個

[ Last edited by locklock on 2007-8-20 at 09:28 PM ]
作者: eqhigh 時間: 2007-8-20 09:21 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-20 05:51 PM:

我唔覺得, 就算光頭佬哥連拿, 都...
只要叫雞後唔洗30秒, 就全世界幾億人知道吹錯, 但只有場中幾條友唔知,
根本係一個大諷刺....

方駿輝真係咁講
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-20 09:23 PM

I watch the highlight show again. If I was Rob Styles and stood in that position
I would give a penalty to Chelsea

Cos I saw Finnan was trying to take a really bad tackle, the Chelsea player was jumping up to prevent it.....

It's still a foul, remember a foul is a foul, couldn't escape........

Similar situation as C. Ronaldo was sent off by Steve Bennett 2 years ago when Man City vs Man Utd. C. Ronaldo didn't touch Andrew Cole, but that's definity a foul ... a professional foul, straight RED
作者: eqhigh 時間: 2007-8-20 09:25 PM

Originally posted by eric911 at 2007-8-20 09:09 PM:

好難講，賓帥買左咁多兵，個個都...
佢解釋番話...第二張黃牌係比泰利既
而唔係比艾辛

不過我就唔多信啦
我覺得係佢自己比左兩張黃牌艾辛,,但後尾知左先去兜番

睇勻全場，依場波既球證先生的確”有料到”
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-20 09:48 PM

Originally posted by eqhigh at 2007-8-20 23:25:

佢解釋番話...第二張黃牌係比泰利...
haha... upcoming news from soccernet!!!!

Referees' chief Keith Hackett has confirmed Rob Styles will not take charge of a match next weekend after his performance in the game between Liverpool and Chelsea at Anfield on Sunday.

Rob Styles and Jamie Carragher
Allsport
Jamie Carragher has words with Rob Styles after his controversial penalty decision.

Styles controversially awarded Chelsea a penalty which enabled the Blues to equalise after Fernando Torres' opener, before causing confusion by brandishing a yellow card at Michael Essien - who had already been booked - but insisting it was John Terry being booked.

And Hackett, general manager of Professional Game Match Officials Limited, told Sky Sports: 'Accountability exists and we, the PGMOL, do expect referees to get big decisions correct.

'On this occasion it was wrong and therefore Rob will not be officiating next weekend.'

Hackett also revealed assistant referee Ian Gosling will be given next weekend off, after he denied Fulham a late goal at home to Middlesbrough when David Healy clearly forced the ball over the line.

The referees' supremo even apologised to Rafael Benitez and Lawrie Sanchez - Liverpool and Fulham manager respectively.

On Styles, Hackett added: 'I spoke to Rob this morning and obviously he is extremely disappointed with the decision and admitted he got it wrong. I have left a message with Rafael Benitez to apologise.

'Having looked at a video and seen a better angle and a better view, clearly he (Styles) now recognises that he got it wrong and he's deeply apologetic for that. I think, in fact, he too will be making contact with Liverpool in order to offer his apologies.'

Asked about the confusion when Essien appeared to be booked for a second time, Hackett said: 'I'm informed by both the fourth official and Rob he retained the card shown to John Terry then held the card to indicate a direct free-kick, and failed to put the card away. So it was a basic, if you like, admin error as against an error in application of law.

'We'll look at the video to ensure we don't get a repeat of that.'

Hackett also confirmed Gosling, who wrongly ruled Boro goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer prevented Healy's effort from crossing the line, will also be without a game this weekend.

'Clearly the assistant referee has made an error, so he won't be operating next week for us either.'
作者: eric911 時間: 2007-8-20 09:58 PM

Originally posted by locklock at 2007-8-20 09:16 PM:

你都有攞馬會份野！陳冠希好似阿...
英雄所見略同﹗

作者: Flea 時間: 2007-8-21 12:33 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-8-20 09:23 PM:
I watch the highlight show again. I...
I think no one will give a penalty

There is a very very minor body contact in this case and mourluda had no intention to get the ball. The only body contact is he jumped into Finnan

so it cannot be a foul
作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-8-21 12:50 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-8-20 09:23 PM:
I watch the highlight show again. I...
即使你係球証, 我都不同意果一球係一個12碼,
根本完全無身體接觸, 何來犯規? 因為芬倫果勢唔好?

球証如果因為咁去判, 覺得佢個勢係想犯規同好狼,
呢個只係一個推測, 即係一個球員如果發老脾,
手執拳頭狀想打人, 但最後無打到, 可以給佢紅牌嗎?

我覺得係一個電光火石間, 腦根上既錯誤,
睇番佢尋晚整體既表現, 你就已經知道佢亂晒大龍...

我較欣賞普爾, 錯就要認, 而呢位史泰奧斯,
真係人如其名, 有style不認錯....

球証都係人, 球証謗証睇中眉彈地波, 睇offside,
或好似尋晚既禁區內犯規, 如果真係睇唔到,
作為球証, 唔斷古可以點???

所以我先講, 錄像係100%應該引入幫手!!
作者: jef2i 時間: 2007-8-21 11:14 AM

.......球證攪到liverpool 輸
作者: eqhigh 時間: 2007-8-21 02:08 PM

Originally posted by jef2i at 2007-8-21 11:14 AM:
.......球證攪到liverpool 輸
和波姐~
不過個球證又的確係影響左依場波唔少
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-21 03:19 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-21 02:50:

即使你係球証, 我都不同意果一球...
I am not saying you are wrong

I think that's not a penalty if I watched from TV.

of cos, from TV view, we are sure that's no foul at all,
But if you look at the view of referee, that's difference, cos he'd run 90 degree opposite than TV, and he'd run on the ground level.
Linesmen couldn't help in this situation, cos he was standing on the same side as referee.
That's why he admitted he was wrong ... (from soccernet) as he viewed that incident with different angles.

Sometimes that's life... I think the TV technology is good .. but the only one question in my mind is, will the game get a lot of delays when all the players are complaining some decision?

作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-21 03:34 PM

Originally posted by eqhigh at 2007-8-20 23:25:

佢解釋番話...第二張黃牌係比泰利...
i want to see that action

it's not showing in highlight show....

作者: 20001160 時間: 2007-8-21 04:04 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-21 12:50 AM:

即使你係球証, 我都不同意果一球...
其實有無留意球證企係邊
留意左你就明點解佢會吹
芬倫馬路逹    球證  成一直線
而佢兩個有無接觸係佢個位置係睇唔到
作者: amigofans 時間: 2007-8-21 04:25 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2007-8-21 03:19 PM:

I am not saying you are wrong :...
若果錄象唔係最高權力, 而只係一個球証既一個工具,
會唔會將delay球場既情況減到最低呢?

即係我講果一種, 3個裁判員都睇唔到既情況, 球証問番上面係咩一回事,
再作出決定, 我覺得如果係咁, 就算利物浦果晚球12碼最終都係吹錯...

至少唔會出現艾辛2黃不紅既攪笑情況,
個人推測果晚太多野係, 史泰奧斯唔夠肯定情況下判決,
最後吹完自己也無信心, 進退失據, 最後亂晒大龍...

從來我唔怪球証會睇錯, 因為不竟係人...
連醫學報告都話, 球証無可能判斷到offside既,

似乎國際足協視若無睹...哈哈
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-21 04:55 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-21 18:25:

從來我唔怪球証會睇錯, 因為不竟係人...
連醫學報告都話, 球証無可能判斷到offside既
I can tell you, that's absolutely right

Sometimes I may guess when I am Assistant Referee
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-21 04:57 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-21 18:25:

似乎國際足協視若無睹...哈哈
Yes, I think so........ but on the other hand... they may change a lot of procedure for the power of referees..etc......

Anyway, let Fifa to make this decision

[ Last edited by brightlee on 2007-8-21 at 07:09 PM ]
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-21 05:03 PM

Originally posted by 20001160 at 2007-8-21 18:04:

其實有無留意球證企係邊
留意左你就明點解佢會吹
芬倫馬路逹    球證  成一直線
而佢兩個有無接觸係佢個位置係睇唔到
Not exactly straight line... but Rob Styles was running really close to straight line, and that's what I want to point out!!!

cos when I watched at highlight show, the first thing I was looking the position of referee and linesman!

Few weeks ago, I was watching the church soccer game. The referee gave a free kick outside the penalty spot. I was standing left side (outside) of the field, I didn't agree his decision. But when I saw he was running 'on the straight line' .... about 50 yards away for that incident, I understood why he made that decision.

The referee did the 'right' things, and it'd in counter attack, the referee was running as quick as possible in that stage.. (but still 50 yards away....
)
作者: brightlee 時間: 2007-8-21 05:08 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2007-8-21 18:25:

至少唔會出現艾辛2黃不紅既攪笑情況,
個人推測果晚太多野係, 史泰奧斯唔夠肯定情況下判決,
最後吹完自己也無信心, 進退失據, 最後亂晒大龍...
I didn't see that match, but I can tell you if he'd be scary about making decision, it'd be normal.
Any soccer players, or fans, may never know how much pressure for the referee is until he/she becomes referees one day.

That's what I see about many players try to become referees in my church league this year. Players (referee) thought it'd be easy, so they never goto study the training course. Then at the end, they become crept on the field
作者: Mun 時間: 2007-8-22 06:31 PM

第二日睇無線新聞d片段，個旁述仲話個球證鐵面無私！

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