Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:$ a3 e9 T( B* I R% Y& ~' ?- {
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩' e) i2 m3 |* B$ R t5 g. k
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:) }: N/ ~9 Q* n) w$ q
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:9 Z+ h# d* V6 x/ b: y* o/ T/ v
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:4 e; x& y; O8 F; r
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:/ l& r! c% c5 q) v0 s8 K" Z( d1 a" O
非常同意- c3 ]$ D0 ~" `
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣) @( F9 K; ?7 F; T6 n: q
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層2 G0 p+ n( |- L. U
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:) B2 M( j8 o9 I# c6 S
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題. a3 A6 b; Z1 c4 ~7 V1 X
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭; }9 Z# l& w, W# a0 L# F
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:2 T% c* C+ P7 N2 g k# q7 m
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:' P T1 M$ G2 Y" u7 z7 K
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:* @+ i" Y( M6 ]& [+ r( l5 a' D
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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