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作者: franken 時間: 2008-1-10 02:54 AM 標題: 大SAM離開紐卡素

艾蘭戴斯話同班主達成協定，離開執教十一個月的喜鵲
由皮雅臣暫時帶住隊波
大SAM離開都正確，紐卡素雖然唔係話一線球隊
但係人腳唔錯，完全唔應該排11
下個做領隊會係邊個呢?
我個人覺得唔會係舒利亞...
馬田祖爾?

作者: Raul 時間: 2008-1-10 03:32 AM

I really cant understand why Sam was under perform in Newcastle. He is really a great manager while he at Bolton

作者: negator 時間: 2008-1-10 03:56 AM

佢係d中小形班教會好d~

作者: chicken 時間: 2008-1-10 09:23 AM

Good news to Newcastle.
Big Sam proved he is a good manager for small clubs only.
He only knows long ball tactic that's useless for big clubs.

作者: 處處吻 時間: 2008-1-10 09:31 AM

大SAM夾硬將教保頓果套用落紐卡素度...班球員都唔係打唔係打開呢家波...尤其中場...搞到攻守進退失據!!!

作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-10 09:34 AM

完全明白紐卡素點解唔可以挑戰頭四強,
甚或至係愛華頓或撲次茅夫都贏佢地9條街....

因為球迷也好, 足主們也好, 三番四次做埋d白痴野,
最大問題係佢地覺得自己o岩, 係決判英明....

從作為一個足主, 會次次身穿同一位球員既球衣去睇波,
足見佢既管理哲學, 白痴得非常...

就連古烈治同路達呢d公認既垃圾領隊, 任期都可以長過艾拿戴斯,
根本係足球既大笑話, 即係卡比路黎緊5場打得唔好, 好好唔即時炒左佢?

可能有班人覺得自己已經使左好多錢, 原本係中游, 而家應該係前列...
但實程自己係下游護級球隊, 使既又唔算咩錢...

就連艾巴莫域治果種用成億幾咁去買人, 車路士第一季都只係由第4上到第2...
之後一季要使多成5000萬先可以上到冠軍...

紐卡素既足主同球迷們, 你地真係天才....

作者: yeung hiu he 時間: 2008-1-10 09:35 AM

希望紐卡素轉左新領隊, 成績會好D 啦 !
好想見番奧雲係歐洲戰場上比賽!

作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-10 09:39 AM

Originally posted by franken at 2008-1-10 02:54 AM:
艾蘭戴斯話同班主達成協定，離開執教...

你無講錯, 舒利亞係唔會去教,
佢已經表明唔會教波....

Shearer rules out Newcastle job

Sources close to Alan Shearer have confirmed to the BBC on Wednesday evening that he is extremely unlikely to be the next manager of Newcastle.

係班白痴先會發埋d春夢, 搵個連教練牌都無既人去帶波....

當然, 講得extremely unlikely既舒利亞, 應該都唔會覺得紐記個老細係smart guy ...

作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-10 09:47 AM

Originally posted by 處處吻 at 2008-1-10 09:31 AM:
大SAM夾硬將教保頓果套用落紐卡素度...班球員都唔係打唔係打開呢家波...尤其中場...搞到攻守進退失據!!!

可能你地分析既都有道理, 但不可忽視, 時間係一個重大問題,
一隊波比兩個垃圾領隊教到一個爛攤子, 桑拿斯同路達兩條友可以玩足34年,

比大sam哥收拾殘局既時間竟然只得8個月....

贏英超最多次既領隊費sir, 接朗艾堅遜既爛攤子, 用上3年先有第一個冠軍....

被譽為英藉最佳既領隊奧尼爾, 接泰萊同奧拉利既既爛攤子, 係用上一年半,
先將支球隊打上黎而家既第7位.....

哈哈, 8個月, 真係天咁大既大笑話.....
我就睇佢地搵咩人教, 咁q巴閉....

作者: $$88 時間: 2008-1-10 10:54 AM

紐卡素今季太令我失望..........

作者: bunce2806 時間: 2008-1-10 12:34 PM

Sam is not a bad manager. Personally I think he should have been given more time (this constant changing of managers has contributed to Newcastle's disappointing results for at least the past 8-10 years).

However having said that, he seems to have concentrated too much on defence and lacked ideas in the midfield and forwards. In football you must go out and try to score goals and win games. You can't just try "not to lose" and also be successful.

The performance of his major new signings has also been disappointing.

作者: 心火 時間: 2008-1-10 12:37 PM

貴價領隊三流成績= =

作者: ming8964 時間: 2008-1-10 02:20 PM

隊波咁爛, 你以為領隊係神仙, 三幾個月就可以起死回生呀!!!
D球迷同班主仲唔醒覺, 仲當自己隊波係强隊,唔肯俾領隊多D時間去執正隊波, 紐卡素真係前途似咁, 無得救!!!

作者: sky308 時間: 2008-1-10 07:37 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-10 09:47 AM:

可能你地分析既都有道理, 但不可...

我都覺
依傢d班主球迷真係以為你一上任就要即刻上前列
不知所謂
踢波既要時間適應
教波既都係既ja
依傢d領隊真慘
打得唔好比老闆照完肺再比球迷插
都唔諗下自己隊波同人地隊波既質素既分別
一個搵人祭旗就炒領隊
半季英超炒8個領隊
"勝敗乃兵家常事"
踢波有贏有輸好正常
個個都要下下比你贏哂咁邊個輸??
對波表現唔好輸幾場波
唔會係球員因賽程太密踢唔出表現搞到差
唔會係球隊本身質素只係咁
真係以為自己對波係車路士咁請左個領隊就當佢係摩帥一上任就拎冠軍好野

作者: alan1984 時間: 2008-1-10 10:40 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-10 09:39 AM:

係班白痴先會發埋d春夢, 搵個連教練牌都無既人去帶波....

佢好似攞左牌嫁喇...不過一早簽左bbc做客席評述員

作者: soccerking 時間: 2008-1-10 11:56 PM

紐卡素仲賠咗600萬磅比佢, 真係肥死佢....

作者: khkeung 時間: 2008-1-11 12:24 AM

人地點白痴成日換人係一回事
大 sam 係咩料子係另一回事
仲話揾佢教英國國家隊
實多幾次唔使入決賽週
算啦佢係咁上下
盡左力架啦byebye

作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-11 09:20 AM

Originally posted by khkeung at 2008-1-11 12:24 AM:
人地點白痴成日換人係一回事
大 sam 係咩料子係另一回事
仲話揾佢教英國國家隊
實多幾次唔使入決賽週
算啦佢係咁上下
盡左力架啦byebye

其實係佢係咁上下, 家係個球會係咁上下呢?

我唔明11位有咩問題wor? 8個月就認定大sam無料到?
保頓呢d無錢既球隊都可以谷到上前列, 唔通佢之前一路都係符碌?

又有邊個神級領隊可以做到紐卡素球迷們同班主既要求?
艾歷臣? 曼城而家第4位, 但他信放左幾多水落去? 紐記有無得比?

艾巴莫域治用左超2億英磅, 2年時間, 仲要請到譽為最佳領隊既摩連奴,
先攪到車仔由第4上第1, 都係躍升3位only...

紐卡素洗左幾多咁大把? 3000萬? 定5000萬? 佢地以為係好多錢?

我唔係大sam fans, 佢可能唔係頂級係事實, 但亦唔係咁差到咁,
差到個任期仲短過路達呢d廢柴?

為佢抱不平, 正係因為咁....
我就係想睇紐卡素請到咩神人咁巴閉....

作者: brightlee 時間: 2008-1-11 09:53 AM

And Anyone forgets that when Bolton was in first year in this spell @ Premier League... under Big Sam...
that Bolton was nearly relegated....

=.='''''

Even in Bolton, Big Sam needed some times to fix up their problems..........

作者: 處處吻 時間: 2008-1-11 11:05 AM

Originally posted by sky308 at 2008-1-10 07:37 PM:

我都覺
依傢d班主球迷真係以為你...

依家球壇(尤其英超)利字當頭, 邊會好似以前咁俾你班領隊教練慢慢執呀!?

最緊要係快回報...$$$$$$$

作者: goodtime 時間: 2008-1-13 12:50 AM

Originally posted by 處處吻 at 2008-1-11 11:05 AM:

依家球壇(尤其英超)利字當頭, 邊會好似以前咁俾你班領隊教練慢慢執呀!?
最緊要係快回報...$$$$$$$

慢慢執
其實近年都有不少中型班係慢慢執返黎
好似愛華頓咁
都係靠莫耶斯搞到依家有聲有色
我相信紐記個班底唔差, 用一兩年時間磨練下會有一番作為

作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-13 03:37 AM

Originally posted by goodtime at 2008-1-13 12:50 AM:

慢慢執
其實近年都有不少中型班...

sorry, 我就睇死佢地, 全因有班白痴老細....

愛華頓唔同紐卡素, 拖肥糖係80年代既班霸....
佢地做事正頭正路過紐記好多!

亂炒人, 高估自己投資應有既回報, 卒之今晚現眼報...

班白痴一日唔醒覺, 一日個球會都只會係中游浮浮沉沉

作者: germ 時間: 2008-1-13 04:04 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-13 03:37 AM:

sorry, 我就睇死佢地, 全因有班白...

should have been 12-0 tonight

作者: kuru 時間: 2008-1-13 07:45 PM

C朗真係好勁, 攪到紐記輸6球

作者: Shaqleung 時間: 2008-1-13 08:38 PM

無人明點解佢地打得咁差.....後防,given+s.taylor+rozhenal,唔係咁差je~~仲有geremi同butt呢d有經驗既防守球員.講進攻,milner,n'zogbia,emre都係有質素既創作型球員.前線,有高有矮,有技術,有身型,有速度.我都唔知佢地爭d mud......偏偏big sam就係唔知佢地應該點打.係攻擊性d定係防守型d...最後兩頭唔到岸....我都同意多少少時間俾佢了解下隊波係有理由d~可惜已經無呢個機會~

作者: arthur8088 時間: 2008-1-13 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Shaqleung at 2008-1-13 20:38:
無人明點解佢地打得咁差.....後防,giv...

Nicky Butt, Geremi and Capapa are all experienced players, but their peak time is kind of over, Geremi has lost his explosive speed and free kick sense...probably spending too long time on Chelsea's bench~
nicky Butt...you should know him why he couldn't hold down a starting place in man utd if you have seen his performance in man Utd~~

James Milner is a kind of mediocre player, If he plays as AMC, he's creative enough...if you put him on the winger side, he's not fast enough~~and his crossing quality is still in Champiionship level~~

I agree Owen is fast, Viduka has physical advantage, and Emre is a very creative player...
but I can only their name on the injuried list rather than starting line-up list~~
and Emre is not physically strong enough to play in EPL...he's quite small~~and so easy to get injuried~~

Smithy's best positon is forward...i dont know why Big sam had put him in the midfield~~
Midfielder has already been proven a tragedy for Smith~~
and he has lost his striking sense already~~maybe spending too much time on exploring to be a good midfielder~~

Steven taylor is one of the promising young defenders in England..but he's yet to prove himself to be the next terry or Ferdinand~~I havnt seem him to produce some steady performance in last two seasons~

These players are Big name players~~like really big name~~but are they actually that productive on the pitch??
I doubt it~~

Nowadays, individual's creativity is important, but teamwork and team creativity is more important~~Have a look on The fourth goal in the match of Man utd VS newcastle, the whole attack started from Carrick at the mid-line to Rooney, then Rooney one touch-pass to Tevez and Ronaldo received Tevez pass and scored against Newcastle...this is the difference, can Newcastle produce goals like this???
Man Utd and Sir Alex had spent 4 years to rebuild the team and to look for a new attack form~~Dont expect newcastle could spend only 6 months or less to become BIg 4 teams..or not even teams can challenge Europe continential competition~

[ Last edited by arthur8088 on 2008-1-13 at 10:20 PM ]

作者: 馬蘭奴 時間: 2008-1-13 10:51 PM

大儍雖非好料，找卡數確係隊麻煩波！

作者: goodtime 時間: 2008-1-13 11:46 PM

Originally posted by arthur8088 at 2008-1-13 09:28 PM:

Nicky Butt, Geremi and Capapa...

Big name players
形容得好好
名大過實
又或者用另一個角度睇
班球員可能適合踢西甲或者意甲多d
....唉一大班好球員都踢到咁既死樣
sosad

作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-14 09:38 AM

Originally posted by goodtime at 2008-1-13 11:46 PM:

Big name players
形容得好好
名大過實
又或者用另一個角度睇
班球員可能適合踢西甲或者意甲多d
....唉一大班好球員都踢到咁既死樣
sosad

我反而好同意樓上另一位朋友既意見wor,
好球員? 所謂"大名"其實有好多係高峰已過,
或者係傷多過咩....

可以睇番今日榜首既曼聯, 由03/04到05/06, 3季都失落聯賽,
用上呢3年時間, 再加上超過一億英磅先rebuilt番隊波,

又睇番同樣係榜首既阿仙奴, 由04/05到06/07, 亦係3季空白,
個會係用錢同呢3年時間, 去支持雲格既年青化革命,

紐卡素班友用左8個月, 加埋果2000幾3000萬, 想要睇到d咩??

奇怪係d投資者同足主, 愈來愈似球迷, 根本唔make sense....
車仔攞冠軍都要2年, 仲用左超過2億, 仲要加埋個摩連奴呀....

作者: alan1984 時間: 2008-1-14 02:03 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-11 09:20 AM:

其實係佢係咁上下, 家係個球會...

炒大SAM既原因其實好簡單,因為佢係上一任主席請番黎的,如果大SAM係有好表現,都會有留低既機會,可惜用左一大筆錢之後,成績仍然唔掂

今年有睇過紐卡素比賽都知道,都無乜試過有邊場係EASY WIN,仲要有兩場係90+入波所以先全取3分...對打比郡,更加贏唔到,佢地得7分,有4分都係來自紐卡素

至於大SAM之前係保頓取得成功,為何在紐卡素表現唔到出黎

因為當年佢係保頓買番黎都係失意軍人,大家對佢都無咩期望,要求亦無咁多,無壓力下去比賽
到了紐卡素,個個都對佢有D期望,加上洗一大筆錢買左9個球員,無成績交貨自然係時候要走
作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-14 03:50 PM

Originally posted by alan1984 at 2008-1-14 02:03 PM:

炒大SAM既原因其實好簡單,因為佢係...
紐記d老細可能同你既想法一樣,
就係大sam係保頓既成功係紐記度表現唔到出黎...
我就唔同意呢種只睇成績唔睇時間既判決,

大家只睇到保頓05-07既成功, 就認為黎到紐卡素就可以即時有呢個表現,
但無人會記得大sam用左幾多年時間, 係由99年開始一步步,
係用足8年先將甲組既保頓打上英超第5位...

用8個月要將呢個成績重現係紐卡素度? 攪笑 !!

因為大家只識睇個成果, 無人留意背後要付出既時間同辛酸,

好彩當年曼聯d老細無認為...
交足3年白卷既費格遜, o係鴨巴甸既成績無o係曼聯度反映出黎...
如果當年曼聯老細愛華士似紐卡素班友如此膚淺, 就無今日既紅魔鬼...
作者: brightlee 時間: 2008-1-14 04:09 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-14 17:50:

紐記d老細可能同你既想法一樣,
...
That's what I said in my messages...
people are looking short term successful in 1 football club.....
作者: brightlee 時間: 2008-1-14 04:10 PM

Alan, you are right too
But on the other hand, it'd be really hard to find a good manager.
作者: $$88 時間: 2008-1-14 04:40 PM

如果仲冇新領隊,隨時降班................
紐卡素輸6粒,慘.........
作者: 文彼得 時間: 2008-1-14 08:58 PM

好明顯呢個係一個惡性循環...
根本都冇俾過時間大sam去夾下隊波...
就算買個朗拿甸奴番黎都冇用啦
希望佢地可以檢討下球隊應該行咩方向
唔係newcastle呢幾年都唔使有好成績
作者: plicaplica 時間: 2008-1-14 09:23 PM

奧雲、維杜卡已經唔係黃金時代
作者: 蒼月淫狼 時間: 2008-1-14 09:35 PM

講真, 大 sam 打既係傳統英式衝撞型足球
紐卡素現有的人手配置其實始終比較技術型
打法比較偏軟, 球風根本不夾
作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-15 09:34 AM

Originally posted by 文彼得 at 2008-1-14 08:58 PM:
好明顯呢個係一個惡性循環...
根本都...
個"惡性循環"其實由杜格利殊已經開始, 古列治, 桑拿斯同路達,
更唔知係何得何能可以做有咁高要求既紐卡素領隊....

以為換左個老細會好d, 點知換正一個鐘意著住alan smith波衫去睇波既痴線佬,
呢班人以為自己洗果二三千萬係好大舊錢....

上年冠軍曼聯, 今年用左5000萬去收購球員, 而家聯賽只係同阿仙奴平排,
22場所得既分數仲少過上年幾分, 以紐卡素班人既思維, 費sir都炒得....

近日利物浦既高層開始嘰嘰吉吉, 相信好快又有"惡性循環"既戲比大家睇...

球會比生意佬收購, 未必係好事, 尤其係唔識波又要攪野既生意佬,
但比起上黎, 有時"球迷生意佬", 更加可怕.....
作者: alan1984 時間: 2008-1-15 04:34 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-14 03:50 PM:

紐記d老細可能同你既想法一樣,
...
現今足球成績係一切...以紐卡素呢隊波既規模,人腳,球場,球迷,投放既資金等等都係英超頭6名內...但只係得現時排11名,主席當然不能接受

更重要係大sam今年表現極之差勁

我今年睇佢地幾場,印象深刻有主場輸比利物浦0-3同1-4輸比樸茨茅夫表現真係差到絕,如果唔係利物浦果場把握得差,可能0-8都有機會...至於輸比樸茨茅夫就頭10分鐘已經輸左3球,試問仲點踢

成隊波踢落無組織同無說服力,入波都係負負碌碌

我覺得連韋根同新特蘭0係組織上都好過紐卡素,試問大sam仲有留低既理由
作者: amigofans 時間: 2008-1-15 05:44 PM

Originally posted by alan1984 at 2008-1-15 04:34 PM:

現今足球成績係一切...以紐卡素呢...
一個艾拿戴斯, 加個兩千幾萬, 8個月, 當佢係神仙咩?

洗d好多? 我又唔覺得佢地係, 連新特蘭都用左成2000萬咁滯,
一隊上年差d要護級紐卡素, 唔掉一億出黎唔好同我話多錢...

其實紐卡素應該研究下同級既對手愛華頓,
莫耶斯不只一季令到愛華頓落入降班旋渦,
好在愛華頓無炒佢.....

又其實紐卡素可以研究下佢地自以為同級既阿仙奴,
雲加係年年用至少2000萬, 三年空白得到今日既年青兵工廠,
都好在阿仙奴無炒佢....

呢次同祖爾麥卡倫有少少分別, bbc sport球評同一眾領隊普遍支持大sam,
我成日話, 咪睇佢地最後請咩人咁巴閉lor,
記得如果打得唔好, 咪比多過8個月佢呀!!
作者: arthur8088 時間: 2008-1-15 08:45 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-1-15 17:44:

一個艾拿戴斯, 加個兩千幾萬, 8個...
the latest rumour is Gerard Houiller will be tipped as the next newcastle Boss, may or may not partner with Alan Shearer...or Kevin keegan will be back to Newcastle~~or all newcastle fans' wish~~Alan Shearer will be the next Newcastle manager~~

Just wonder to know The bigggest Newcastle fan in 26FUN----Edgar Davids has not expressed him/her self out~~

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