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作者: sage 時間: 2008-8-12 09:41 PM 標題: 點解仲有幾十秒都唔打埋佢?

籃球
點解可以提早收工?
though friendship goes first...

作者: chong2002 時間: 2008-8-13 12:37 AM

如果果幾十秒唔足以影響賽果
通常都係hold 起個波唔再攻
一黎無意思
二黎無謂臨尾整傷嘛

作者: shehboy 時間: 2008-8-13 01:27 AM

原帖由 chong2002 於 2008-8-13 12:37 AM 發表
如果果幾十秒唔足以影響賽果
通常都係hold 起個波唔再攻
一黎無意思
二黎無謂臨尾整傷嘛

乜野係體育精神呀? 就係不管輸贏, 到最後一秒都要盡力.
不足以影響賽果就唔玩? 咁好多弱國選手根本都無謂參加奧運啦 !!
況且好多觀眾特登買飛捧場, 仲有幾十秒都唔打埋, 即係欺場, 對fans唔住 !

其實夢幻隊的不敗之謎, 只維持了三屆咁大把就被打破, 佢地自己真係咁強, 還是太過自以為是? 事實已有答案.

作者: dawander3r 時間: 2008-8-13 03:05 AM

原帖由 shehboy 於 2008-8-13 01:27 AM 發表

乜野係體育精神呀? 就係不管輸贏, 到最後一秒都要盡力.
不足以影響賽果就唔玩? 咁好多弱國選手根本都無謂參加奧運啦 !!
況且好多觀眾特登買飛捧場, 仲有幾十秒都唔打埋, 即係欺場, 對fans唔住 !

其實夢幻隊的不敗 ...

Dude, u really earn my respect this time. I totally agree to what u say.
Who will know what the final result would be unless u try? How many miracles we have seen in the past? Those atheletes became legends because they never give up until the last second as they are acting what a real athelete should be like. U should play until the last second man. If you afraid to get hurt, then just don't go too aggressively. At the mean time, maybe the opponent is afraid to get hurt which hinders him/her to play the next game, they may easily make mistakes and might able to let the losing team a chance to catch up or win. This is Professionalism man. You are not asking to do something more, you are just asking to do the standards, it is not a minimum, it is just what you are suppose requiring to do. It doesn't matter your last contribution will affect the final result or not, but what matter is that did u fulfuill your Sportmanship or not!!
Refers to the other post, the newbie working in a bank, he made a post to tell the people not to make request which takes a lot of procedures for them right before the end of their operation hours. Yo, ya operation hours is said to be this time, how come there is restriction that you can't do a range of works within the operation hours? You are hired to operate until the end of the operation hour which it is just the time stops people entering in only.

[ 本帖最後由 dawander3r 於 2008-8-13 03:06 AM 編輯 ]

作者: infjlam 時間: 2008-8-13 03:54 AM

我覺得這多多少少和西方的文化有關...

舉個例，當西方人戰爭時，見其中一方好明顯已勝券在握，勝負已分，
取勝已等同無望的一方，就會自動懂得放下武器，認輸和投降，
不會再繼續作不必要的抗爭或犧牲，
在他們的理念觀上，認輸或投降，並不代表著怯懦，
亦無關精神上或道德上的問題...

在我來看，在適當時候接受自己的失敗，
認同對方技高一籌，這反而是文明的表現。
再者，奧運運動員若在比賽中已盡全力，
這已對得住自己和為自己打氣的人，
勝和負，到最後反而不應是最重要的一環。

p.s.
題外話，
再舉個例，
二戰時的日本皇軍，就選擇神風式自殺襲擊，戰到最後一兵一卒，
寧為玉碎，不為瓦存，不承認自己是已經失敗的偏狹思想，
不為民族保留一點點再生所需的元氣，在我看，就更不顧全大局的罷～

作者: infjlam 時間: 2008-8-13 04:11 AM

補充一點，
正如chong2002兄所說，
問題真正重心是「最後幾十秒唔足以影響賽果」，
最後幾十秒不再繼續打，不代表冇體育精神，
體育精神中，亦有所謂器度～

再現實Ｄ講，呢場只係分組賽，無論勝負雙方，還有很多場硬仗等住佢地打呀

作者: cfccfcc 時間: 2008-8-13 09:24 AM

Its very normal to have Rubbish time in basketball game
no matter its NBA or Olympics
When the losing team have no chance to catch up, for example losing >30pts in 4th quater
Audience should understand and accept that the game is over and prepared to leave
Please dun magnified the sportmanship in such a way

作者: Azuma 時間: 2008-8-13 12:17 PM

其實

如果唔打個10幾秒會被球迷或觀眾批評

如果佢認真打埋個10幾秒會被成千上百萬gei網民作話題

例如"夢8贏波輸風度"

再者我睇電視係好似有中國球員同佢地伸手握手

佢地先唔打算攻

作者: sage 時間: 2008-8-13 12:27 PM

雙方都有道理
畢竟'rubbish time'係美國文化
但俾人既感覺係再打落去只會再拋離你
所以唔打係俾你好些落台..呢樣有少少串..
中國跳水, 美國游水都係大拋離
但佢地仍會盡力, 較值得欣賞

作者: sage 時間: 2008-8-13 12:29 PM 標題: 係美國hold住個波先會停?

原帖由 Azuma 於 2008-8-13 12:17 PM 發表
其實

如果唔打個10幾秒會被球迷或觀眾批評

如果佢認真打埋個10幾秒會被成千上百萬gei網民作話題

例如"夢8贏波輸風度"

再者我睇電視係好似有中國球員同佢地伸手握手

佢地先唔打算攻 ...

中國球員唔係想力戰到最後一刻咩?

係美國hold住個波先會停?

作者: brightlee 時間: 2008-8-13 03:03 PM

it'd be similar as soccer, if a team is crushing b team by 10-0.. no one would like to attack in last 10 mins...

Fitness is 1 factor.... especially they don't want to get silly injury or silly foul.....

Mentally they are preparing another games (I mean both teams are doing this)

That's why I think no one wants to play in this moment at all.

作者: 17317328 時間: 2008-8-13 04:16 PM

我覺得美國過左100分之後唔攻中國都輸30分
我覺得唔攻係正常反面你硬入爆產籃去攻
硬會比人話都羸緊仲要爆入去之類既說話
唔攻唔代表冇體育精神囉係呢個處境黎講

作者: chong2002 時間: 2008-8-13 07:28 PM

我諗shehboy一定係少睇籃球

籃球最後一節得返幾十秒果陣
如果贏負已分
其實已經進入左"垃圾時間"
唔攻唔代表兩方放棄
只係大家尊重大家,尊重賽果
正如大家所講:友誼第一,比賽第二"

ps:垃圾球隊唔代表輸梗,如果唔係唔會有"爆冷"出現,根本唔可以囉黎比較,以中國vs usa 黎講
輸31分, 你可以係幾十秒追返?

凚

[ 本帖最後由 chong2002 於 2008-8-13 07:31 PM 編輯 ]

作者: whyseeeric 時間: 2008-8-14 05:41 AM

籃球不嬲都係咁ga la~
佢win 一分唔攻可以俾人話du 波鐘
又可以話係戰術ga je...
何況避免受傷同友誼第一的確係好重要ge 原因~

infjlam 講ge 野實在太令人佩服~
呢d 先叫分析ma~

作者: cfccfcc 時間: 2008-8-14 09:06 AM

one more point to note
如果美國男藍不停咁攻
只會比人話佢地侮辱對手

作者: e_e 時間: 2008-8-14 10:45 AM

原帖由 cfccfcc 於 2008-8-14 09:06 AM 發表
one more point to note
如果美國男藍不停咁攻
只會比人話佢地侮辱對手

e樣野我都想講下 , 個人認為的確係唔應該每篾對手 ,
但win果個一定會認為 , 佢win左就有e個資格 ,
而你滿口仁義係 , 佢眼中只係因為你係lose果個 ,
所以點都好 , 你係lose或者會有d人同情 ,
但要人地唔每篾你 , 唯一方法就係要win !!!

e個邏輯本來沒甚麼問 , 但到你win左 ,
你一定每篾番每篾過你既人 , "每篾" 結果被雙重肯定 ,
會成為合理正常的東西 , 原本最完美--謙讓的道德追求 ,
變成沒這回事 ...

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