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作者: 95202681    時間: 2009-2-10 12:39 AM     標題: 史高拉利被炒

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作者: 自由神    時間: 2009-2-10 12:40 AM

記得加自己意見呀
齋post新聞唔得嫁

唉....遲早啦。
佢戰術細“利”,但英超只講求快
作者: jimjim12    時間: 2009-2-10 12:50 AM

球員質地問題,邊個教都冇用~
作者: f.barthez    時間: 2009-2-10 01:31 AM

搵返摩連奴返黎教都死啦...
依家既chelsea 攻不銳 守不穩...
你睇下依家既Petr Cech 同佢o係連續攞英超果兩年比較一下丫...
水準係下跌左好多喇.. 差唔多場場都有失波...
你睇佢歐洲國家盃對土耳其果球咁既大失誤...
以前既佢邊會出現咁既情況架....
唉....
作者: amigofans    時間: 2009-2-10 01:34 AM

恭喜車路士正式走入紐卡素,曼城,熱刺式既死胡同!!

只係教左7個月, 買左兩三個人咁大把, 聯賽都未完就下馬....

有錢佬或者球迷愈來愈唔可以接受同面對失敗,

大概世上再唔會有好領隊, 我相信費格遜如果遲出世20年, 佢永遠贏唔到半個杯...
因為以前可以比3年時間你, 但而家要你一教就天下無敵....

或者講史高拉利, 拉莫斯, 艾歷臣之流應該好好向摩連奴學習,
無寶不落, 明哲保身....

[ 本帖最後由 amigofans 於 2009-2-10 01:35 AM 編輯 ]
作者: germ    時間: 2009-2-10 01:36 AM

原帖由 自由神 於 2009-2-10 12:40 AM 發表
記得加自己意見呀
齋post新聞唔得嫁

唉....遲早啦。
佢戰術細“利”,但英超只講求快
??????premier league is probably the best league in the world, along with Italy.  The skills and tactics that the big 4 displayed are definitely cream of the world soccer.  Even if one does  not agree they are the best, they are definitely the same level as Italy and Spain.
作者: 勇勇    時間: 2009-2-10 02:11 AM

原帖由 自由神 於 2009-2-10 12:40 AM 發表
記得加自己意見呀
齋post新聞唔得嫁

唉....遲早啦。
佢戰術細“利”,但英超只講求快
低佢死啦
明明4-4-2發揮好好,但佢死都要用4-5-1
都唔知道佢係固執,定係唔LIKE 杜巴巴
作者: ot911    時間: 2009-2-10 02:36 AM

個個球星都唔聽佢講,球隊風格又茅,只係有個人能力,又唔合作.不如只射十二碼啦......
作者: dawander3r    時間: 2009-2-10 04:53 AM

Good!! It is a wrong decision to hire him right from the start.

Let me tell u guys something.
A coach or soccer manager is apparently the LEADER of the team, think of as it is an army squad or any organized group, the discipline must be required. When the leader cannot lead the team, in another word, the leader earns no respect from the team or at least half of the team members, he is disqualified right from the start regardless how good his coaching or whatsoever skills he has. Otherwise, what is the point to have a leader for? What is the point to have a captain for? You think that's just a title without any meaning?
It doesn't matter about u agree the Chelsea players are star players or world's top players or not, they are definitely one of the top players reflecting by their market value and marketability which means it is not easy to lead them unless u r a skillful coach who can earn their respects. Otherwise, they won't listen to you if u have no skills at all or not strong enough. This is very simple.
Just like if anyone just come up to u and order u to listen to their orders, u will refuse also unless u found this person is a great person who can earn ya respect deep from ya heart. That's man to man matters, all men can understand that.
作者: dawander3r    時間: 2009-2-10 04:59 AM

原帖由 germ 於 2009-2-10 01:36 AM 發表


??????premier league is probably the best league in the world, along with Italy.  The skills and tactics that the big 4 displayed are definitely cream of the world soccer.  Even if one does  not agr ...
Stop kidding me man. If Chelsea & Real Madrid didn't spend whole bunch of money to attract the top players to join and start making the trend, Italian Series A is still the top class league without doubt. Unfortunately, at the mean time, they are not producing a lot of great local players as before. They talk about both individual and team skills man. Why do you think it is so hard to score in their league? In any sports or anything, it is always a boring match or hard to score when two top class parties compete.
作者: 1688dickson    時間: 2009-2-10 05:57 AM

佢比人炒唔緊要==
邊個教番先?
作者: amigofans    時間: 2009-2-10 10:16 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-2-10 04:53 AM 發表
Good!! It is a wrong decision to hire him right from the start.

Let me tell u guys something.
A coach or soccer manager is apparently the LEADER of the team, think of as it is an army squad or any or ...
你講得好o岩, 大飛好似係唔見得好受尊重, 某程度上你可以講 he can't lead the team.
但事實上只係一個抽象既見解, 有無事例舉出黎見証球員佢無到?

我係格蘭身上睇到, 係大飛身上睇唔到...

定係打得唔好, 交唔到貨就等於can't earn respects?

咁德高望重既費格遜, 04-06聯賽3季交白卷, 係咪都係因為球員唔服佢?

咁戰術大師雲加, 今季艾迪巴約無態, 加拿斯公開批評球隊添, 擺明不受尊重,
係因為雲加 not  a skillful coach ?

要知道唔受愛戴都好多種原因, 唔可以因為覺得佢無料, 就將無料到, 成績差同唔受尊重連成一線...

有一點好矛盾, 如果佢係廢到如你所講咁not skillful, 大概當年佢教比車路士skillful 幾倍既巴西,
3個星期就應該比班球隊杯葛, 根本無人會聽佢支笛, 更莫講贏世界杯....

唔好再講邊個帶巴西都會贏世杯呢個論點, 因為咁講顯得不太有智慧....
作者: amigofans    時間: 2009-2-10 10:26 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-2-10 04:59 AM 發表


Stop kidding me man. If Chelsea & Real Madrid didn't spend whole bunch of money to attract the top players to join and start making the trend, Italian Series A is still the top class league without  ...
好高興呢個年代, 仲有人講 Italian Series A is still the top class league .....仲要 without doubt....

其實足球從來都係cash is king, that's why 50's 60's 最top係西甲, 80's 90's 最top係意甲, 而家係英超同西甲,

電視轉播權邊度值錢d? 點解係4強被英超圍揪贏到歐聯既係ac, 唔係熱拿亞之流?

你認為 Italian Series A is still the top class league 既論點, 相信上述兩點已經答左你...
作者: edge0424    時間: 2009-2-10 10:30 AM

天大喜訊
作者: amigofans    時間: 2009-2-10 10:47 AM

其實我認為車仔打唔番早幾季既水準, 主要係球員既問題大過領隊...

呢d係銀彈政策既後遺症, 當年要衝上去挑曼聯阿仙奴, 買既都係當打既"即食面"

呢類球員, 都係黃金期買入既貴價貨, 弱點係玩幾年就會走下坡, 當然最大獲係"養唔熟"

之所以曼聯買既都係"青苗", 阿仙奴買既更係"幼苗", 除左因為唔夠人錢多之外,
目的不外乎相班波可以玩耐d, 班青年人成熟後可以同車仔爭一日長短....

銀彈政策好似吸毒一樣, 如果要有成績, 一開始你唔可以停落去....
聰明仔摩連奴深明此道, 佢一見老細唔再放水, 就立即講出"沒有好蛋炒不到好奄列"既理論...

好多車仔fans好似同車仔老細一樣不明此點...
卡華奴, 波歷克, 杜奧巴, 林柏特, a高爾, 泰利呢d主力全部係箭咀向下,
靠佢地黎頂住維迪, 卡域克, 費扥, 馬斯查蘭奴, 艾加, c朗同朗尼呢班箭咀向上既球員? 咪玩啦....

如果咁唔洗時間換血都得既, 咁果時堅尼, giggs, 史高斯, 施維斯達都頂得住, 唔洗輸足3季啦....
作者: dawander3r    時間: 2009-2-11 04:11 AM

原帖由 filter-052fans 於 2009-2-10 10:26 AM 發表


好高興呢個年代, 仲有人講 Italian Series A is still the top class league .....仲要 without doubt....

其實足球從來都係cash is king, that's why 50's 60's 最top係西甲, 80's 90's 最top係意甲, 而家係英超 ...
Hahaha....Apparently u misinterpreted the sentence. As u said, cash is king, that was what I said, dude. I said, "If Chelsea & RM didn't start spending so much money to attract all the top players, Series A is still the top class league without doubt especially when they are not producing great local players as much as before".

[ 本帖最後由 dawander3r 於 2009-2-11 04:17 AM 編輯 ]
作者: dawander3r    時間: 2009-2-11 04:13 AM

原帖由 filter-052fans 於 2009-2-10 10:16 AM 發表


你講得好o岩, 大飛好似係唔見得好受尊重, 某程度上你可以講 he can't lead the team.
但事實上只係一個抽象既見解, 有無事例舉出黎見証球員佢無到?

我係格蘭身上睇到, 係大飛身上睇唔到...

定係打得 ...
Evidences are being reported from sports news if you do pay attention to that.
作者: amigofans    時間: 2009-2-11 02:58 PM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-2-11 04:11 AM 發表


Hahaha....Apparently u misinterpreted the sentence. As u said, cash is king, that was what I said, dude. I said, "If Chelsea & RM didn't start spending so much money to attract all the top players,  ...
Sorry, 呢個我無睇清楚 , 基本上大家觀點差唔多, cash is king
作者: amigofans    時間: 2009-2-11 03:12 PM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-2-11 04:13 AM 發表


Evidences are being reported from sports news if you do pay attention to that.
我上季親眼係電視上見到, 格蘭要捉住杜奧巴, 拉住佢件衫先可以同佢講一兩句野,
阿杜奧巴仲都係好似好唔耐煩咁, 泰利一樣如此, 佢可以叫被換緊出場既卡華奴停低,
問長問短先比佢出場, 完全當格蘭係透明....

但我至少未見過大飛如此不受尊重, 公開批評更加係無...

以下係節錄bbc sport 泰利既說話:
"He had my full support. I'm sure two or three of the other players would say the same," said the centre-half.  "I was shocked by what's happened. I have sympathy for Scolari. He's a great man but we weren't playing well and that unfortunately falls on his head.  "Maybe it should have fallen more on us the players," added Terry.

原文:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/ ... chelsea/7882252.stm

當然你可以講佢只係冠冕堂皇, or 有弦外之音....


我一直覺得問題唔係佢受唔受尊重, 球員唔服佢既問題,
個問題係, even所謂深受球員愛戴既摩連奴, 就算而家係佢教都一樣,

因為問題係球員退步身上, that why 你地既神人偶像摩生, 07年已經大喊無錢買人...
最後呢個奄列論直接成為佢炒魷既導火線...

我只係執神人既口水味o者....
作者: germ    時間: 2009-2-13 12:16 AM

原帖由 dawander3r 於 2009-2-11 04:11 AM 發表


Hahaha....Apparently u misinterpreted the sentence. As u said, cash is king, that was what I said, dude. I said, "If Chelsea & RM didn't start spending so much money to attract all the top players, Series A is still the top class league without doubt especially when they are not producing great local players as much as before"....
Scrutinize your words, you misinterpret yourself.




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