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作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-9 03:40 AM 標題: All-star Revserves

Finally it's coming out.... I read the lists.. I am surprised by some players in the reserved!

West:
Ginobili,
Amare,
Lewis,
Allen,
Marion,
Nash,
Dirk

East,
Arenas,
Jamison,
Z,
J O'Neal,
B Wallace,
Wade,
Pierce

It's really closed to my selctions...

East reserves are DEFINITY OK. (I could say good in this, and can be more balancing in height and power now)

But West.... I am really disappointed for Ginobili in there.......
YES, he's one of the brightest stars in Olympics.. but does he play that good in Spurs? NO!
I would CHOOSE Brand or Gasol in there.

And NO reserves point guard in there in West, West maybe in troubles.....

Well.. I am happy that Lewis in the West....... finally he could be an all-star!!

Also...... 11 yrs later (since 94)... finally this all-star games gets 3 reverse players within same team (Suns)

作者: crap 時間: 2005-2-9 04:01 AM

well the selection was quite ordinary...

BRIGHTLEE u r right that the West may be in trouble..
if Nash get foul trouble then the West will be in deep sh;t..

but at the same time the East seems doesn't got much 3 pt. shooters in the squad..
the Wset may play Zone instead....
then the East will be fu.ked up..........(i don't wanna see this happen......)
just hope fast breaks work for the East.....

the best line-up in my view would be:
East: A.I. + James + Carter + O'NEALs
West: Nash + T-Mac + KG + Dirk + Duncan (sacry..............)

my biggest supprise so far is still the return of Grant Hill though...
besides, Bibby didn't get picked is an upset too...

well after all...
the East's still quick while the West's still big...........

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-9 04:17 AM

Yes I agree with u......

East would be in big troubles.. .. if they don't have quickness.....
I think deeply for the reserves in West..
Only Amare couldn't shoot 3 pts..
that mean... it's unlike last few years... East got quickness and long range shooters......

Yes, I love Grant Hill, to be honest... I am pls that he could play in this level ... espeically after injury in 3 yrs... (what? he played 49 games since moving to Orlando except this year?)

作者: crap 時間: 2005-2-9 04:35 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-2-9 04:17 AM:
... (what? he played 49 games since moving to Orlando except this year?)

haha
what a secure, comfortable n fine paid job.....................
Grant Hill's a great player....
although i didn't like him much when he's shining....
coz at that time i was a supporter of Miami.....
well,u know.... Hill tried to dunk in Zo's face each and every time they meet..............
and that really pissed me off.... haha

but it's alway's like that
u don't recognise how good some players are unless you look back at their performances when they retire or not your enermies anyomre.....
to me... Hill's a good example... Stockton and Larry Johnson as well..
expecially Stockton.......... his passes are just pathetic............

anyway...
for this year's ALL STAR GAME............
to be honost i can't see any chance the East can win up to this moment..................

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-9 05:02 AM

they have some another examples
David Robinson (6 games in one season, 96-97)
Clyde Drexler (missing 1/2 season after 92 Olympics)
Kevin Willis, (missing all 88-89 season)
of cos.. this one:

Bill Walton!!!!! non-stopping injury to plug this players.
He was out for many seasons after winning the champions in 77.
Then became 6th man of the season in 86

Oops!

[ Last edited by brightlee on 2005-2-9 at 07:28 AM ]

作者: wai214 時間: 2005-2-9 05:48 AM

isn't it Lakers has 4 all-stars once ?
Shaq - Jones - Van exel - Kobe...not really remember but I do remember Kobe almost collapsed MJ in the game and he was forced on the bench during the 4th quarter

I am glad to see the all-star reserves....coz it seems the NBA has finally passed down the torch to the new generations...

Webber will be the saddest one...at his prime, he has to live under the shadow of KG and TD and he didnt get a ring just becoz of the team injuries in two consecutive years...well...that's life...

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-9 06:10 AM

oh yes.. that's 98 seasons.. I missed that out..
By the way, I still remember the Air-ball from Van Excel in llast mins @4th quad.
Everyone was shocked at that moment.
you know, you never expect an air ball will be happened when you got wide-open.

To be honest, Webber is passing his peak nowadays.....
injury plug him out most of them times.....

作者: vincecarter 時間: 2005-2-9 12:15 PM

y no francis?
he play quite good this year and magic also not bad.......

作者: anttiniemi2000 時間: 2005-2-9 06:06 PM

Originally posted by crap at 2005-2-9 04:35 AM:

haha
what a secure, comfortable n fine paid job.....................
Grant Hill's a great player....
although i didn't like him much when he's shining....
coz at that time i was a supporte ...

who is Zo?

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-9 06:34 PM

Zo is Alanzo Mourning....
Before his kidney operation, he was one of the best centers in late 90s

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-9 06:57 PM

man...
the reserves are quit upsetting/disappointing u know...

there's no way that the truth should make it (pierce)
no francis??? no kidd??? what the crap....
bigZ was good...but...not THAT good c'mon

3 suns??? (although, i'm happy that marion got in)...but still c'mon...
2 wizards? (F that crap)

man...
no comment
sth wrong with those fools other there

peace out

SupaCarterFan (o^.^o)

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-9 06:58 PM

quite i meant (haha, quit???)

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-9 07:14 PM

maybe they choose Wade, so no kidd in there....
well, Francis... em.. to be honest, Orlando is not playing really good since Decmeber...
Pierce... if they choose Franics.. no 3 pointer in East... would be more troubles..........!~~~

that's why I think the backup in East is ok..
I am so disapointed for Gino

作者: HiLee 時間: 2005-2-10 12:16 AM 標題: who about webber?

i think he plays quite well this year

作者: HiLee 時間: 2005-2-10 12:22 AM 標題: Oh what? Zo?

Alonzo Mourning is in the reserve? Oh no..........
I respect him, but he is no more an all-star now la ma.....

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-10 02:24 AM

nono
Z is Zydrunas Ilgauskas (clev)
someone was asking who "Zo" was
that's all
haha
mourning's allstar???
he's one of my all time fav.
but getting him there would be too much of a push (this yr)
haha
i wouldn't mind tho
coz then the raps will have an allstar
haha

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-10 02:33 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-2-9 07:14 PM:
maybe they choose Wade, so no kidd in there....
well, Francis... em.. to be honest, Orlando is not playing really good since Decmeber...
Pierce... if they choose Franics.. no 3 pointer in East.. ...

ohoh
dont' get me wrong
i think wade should start if u ask me (over iverson)
just that i was hoping to see kidd instead of the truth(pierce)...(seriously...why is he an allstar this yr???)
and why 3pt when u can simply post and give it 2 shaq and VC all time??? higher %
inside the paint, that's where u win ball games

man...
shouldn't make the decision base on the month of dec
(although that was why matt bonner didn't get in and J.Smith did for the rookie game)

ginobili's an allstar...just maybe not this yr yet...
is it just me or do u guys agree with me when i say the veterans are not getting enough respect this yr??
again...3 suns??? 2 sonics??? 2 wizards??? c'mon...

now that the reserves are out
i think the east is gonna 2 win

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-10 06:41 AM

em.. Iverson... due to election from us (fans).. well.. you know Wade is not "famous".......
and remember Boston is leading in Atlantic now....
so that's why i think the coaches choose him, rather than Wade/Kidd

To be honest, I would choose Wade... but NOT Z in reserves....

haha... Gino.... as I said, I would choose Brand...... but well.. they want a guard... what can I say?!

team records and market values effect a lot in NBA....

see. that's why Pirece instead Kidd.
that's why no Redd in there....

that's why.... so many good teams get 2 or more players in all-star game..
it's normal!!

you may be disappointed.. but I think Carter wouldn't be playing a lot of times... that's traditional in all-star game.. that's what I see so far....

Don't be upset, to be honest, East has a small chance to win this game......

作者: crap 時間: 2005-2-10 07:36 AM

Maybe the East chose Z for tactics
u see West got 6 players taller than 6"10.. (that the East should have expected)
6"9 Uncle Ben can do the D, but not offence...
so Z is useful for the East as being the tallest offence player ..

and again the prob. of no 3 point shooters is the other team can play Zone D
and that sucks............
coz the East will be trapped in the mid range when attacking
which is the zone with low(er) accuracy
but i think the speed of the East can stop the counter fast breaks from the West.....
otherwise they'll be behind by 20-30 by half time.....

there's small chance for the East..
they need to show great spirit to win (like what they did in '01)

p.s.
let's hope Iverson won't be a bloody passer this year..........

[ Last edited by crap on 2005-2-10 at 07:41 AM ]

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-10 01:02 PM

you are right...!!!

Zone D will kill East... No 3-pointers, no midrange jumper... (except Grant Hill)...
Remember how big for West players... see the starting lineup? Kobe is 6'6, and he's the smallest on the field.....

East will be in big troubles

作者: van nistelrooy 時間: 2005-2-10 03:29 PM

無jason kidd睇lu.....好似差緊d野咁

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-2-10 07:55 PM

Well.. in this year..
No Kidd.. that should be normal...
Nets is under .500 now.....
and in election from internet.. Kidd didn't select in there.. it's hard for the coaches to choose him..
for example, if they choose Kidd over Arenas, I think more people would be upset ...
same as so many Mephemis (or Bulls, Lakers, Clippers) fans are upsetting they don't have any players in all-star game,
they get some good players, their team is over .500, but no all-star? really unfair

作者: crap 時間: 2005-2-10 08:46 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-2-10 07:55 PM:
Well.. in this year..
No Kidd.. that should be normal...
Nets is under .500 now.....
and in election from internet.. Kidd didn't select in there.. it's hard for the coaches to choose him..
for ...

yeah, team result should be one important consideration when picking reserves,
and maybe that's y Ginoboli got chosen..

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-11 07:05 AM

first of all
i wanna say that the brothers in here are all soooo pro
knowing so much abt the abt
makes it sooooo much fun to chat here
keep it up bro's

where should i start...
brother brightlee
once again, i have to say i really really dont' wanna see the truth there
atlanta div.??? man...for crying out loud that div suc* (haha, toronto raps is still in the playoff hunt???)
well...i guess it's true tho...all the divisional leaders have at least one allstar

gino, i just saw top 10 plays of his on tv...haha...u know what...4get it...those layups...are too out of the world...i guess he kinda earned it...just the the spurs players are all like that...no hype, yet solid and reliable, so i glad to see that they (duncan and gino)

as for picking Z
wow, didn't think of it like that, good pt brother
but the defence of east is amazing
(uncle ben, J.O., Z is a good defensive player as well)
it's like the west is the 矛 and east is the 盾
强矛vs.强盾
when i think abt that, it's gonna be good

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-11 07:05 AM

Originally posted by van nistelrooy at 2005-2-10 03:29 PM:
無jason kidd睇lu.....好似差緊d野咁

agree....

作者: herothree 時間: 2005-2-11 07:16 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-2-10 01:02 PM:
you are right...!!!

Zone D will kill East... No 3-pointers, no midrange jumper... (except Grant Hill)...
Remember how big for West players... see the starting lineup? Kobe is 6'6, and he's the ...

agree...zone can stop us (east) quite abit
yet 本人從來都覺3pts are overrated(for they won't always go in u know)
but mid range shots are concerns...
we'll have to see
for players like VC, wade, pierce, iverson, areaes and KING JAMEs can all created their own shots
反觀west因short on pt guards and 強姦 might not be able to play they are really weak on creating their own shots (if T-mac put on a showtime...then....sigh.....yes...east will sure lose)(i doubt it tho)

總之一句到尾, 我覺得有得打, 有得打!!!

peace out

SupaVCfan
hope he'll be crazy at allstars

作者: wai214 時間: 2005-2-12 02:29 PM

I was shocked that they left out Franchise, if the East want a running team, Franchise should be in definitely.  If they need 3 pts, Redd should be in instead.  With Shaq starts, I don't see any necessity of picking Big Z.  He will just end up on the bench if they are for real, so the east are bascially a mess of position.

Many of you think that the West are in big trouble becoz they only have Nash playing at the pt.  but that's just not true.  Look at the west, only the Suns are playing the uptempo basketball which is more like the Eastern style. For the rest of the top western teams, they are playing the inside-out where the offense begins with their big man and pg is not a big part.  (The prime SAC and the Shaq-Kobe Lakers are a good example)

This is why the West does not need a true pg but instead loading with all the long range shooters at the perimeter...

Personally, the chances for the east are real small.  Big Ben is not able to D up the super stars.  Look at last year All-star, he just got push around by Yao and Shaq cannot power in with 3 7 footers in the paint.

The only thing can happen for the East would be in the 4th quarter the west's shot accidently cannot get in.  The first 3 quarters are basically meaningless becoz the west will let the east gets back into the game once they are leading for 20 pts or something.

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