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作者: crap    時間: 2005-4-23 01:24 PM     標題: [4/23加分題] 討論: 理想香港地

香港人成日對好多野不滿,
  s; q3 l* E7 s+ J2 o好似無工開, 人工低, 人多, d人無文化, 無禮貌, 後生仔一日掛住溝女唔讀書, 政府垃圾, 大陸領導人干預香港政策, 長毛搞事, 警察有賊唔捉去拉老翻... ... ... ..., C# |+ k  L+ _$ b! _- F

2 a: ?# d& g/ _& C# `1 y& h8 [3 a大家覺得香港係咪真係咁差?& c6 M$ O- Q3 {& l
大家最希望改善既係咩?
+ h" Q6 M# f( b有無諗過可以/應該點樣改?
9 o( ]1 b5 @9 {) W) y你地心目中理想既香港係點既呢?
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/ L# m8 T" t+ V: |; r+ Z大家一齊分享下, 發表下自己既意見, 了解其他朋友點睇, 諗下佢地既方法可唔可行, 同埋睇下自己可唔可以為我地既家出一分力
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[ Last edited by 樂壇渣Fit人 on 2005-4-23 at 01:26 PM ]
作者: kyleung    時間: 2005-4-23 01:41 PM

脫離中共管治- O1 l' q8 |7 f; ?4 T
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唔好同我講得與唔得5 Z  M4 R' ]. ?$ J2 @% o
脫離左又個經濟架構又會瓜柴個 d 野
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-4-23 01:56 PM

1) Hk is bad in my mind& V" w' w( U" t. V0 y2 ^
2) how to solve it nowadays, I get no idea, cos there are so many problems or saying too many problems,
6 |. t! c( [9 q  F  t; \even though u were the governor, you would get a hugh headahce too
9 G4 }" l4 Q" z" d+ W/ A0 y. {em... if we really want to solve the problems I think, we should educated some immigrantion, it's not cos they are... NOT GOOD6 `* Q; q5 Z! `8 g
it's in both side, for HK people how to accpet them. B6 q* Y+ S- N* R- g7 _
it's similar situation about in East Germans and West Germans nowadays,.... even though they are combined for more than 15 yrs, they have problems and no accpeting others in some way.......(my cousin is living in Germany, so I know it)
作者: Preston_tron    時間: 2005-4-23 02:01 PM

remove the communist republic
作者: JCer    時間: 2005-4-23 02:01 PM

香港其實已經係好好
; B; B* a9 k2 y無戰爭---(好多國家日日內戰, 咁你重有咩心機去生存, 生存日日都係打打殺殺...唔知為o物)
* Y. ^5 ~( b# o. x少天災---(唔需多講, 上年一單大野, 全HK人都覺悟到自己其實都比人地幸福得多了); j( ^/ m$ m5 O9 g) z& w
無暴力分子(唔好同我講HK黑社會係暴力分子!!!, 根本同外國果D無得比,你會唔會起HK無啦啦比人捉左去切你個頭?)
8 l7 Q( ?* w4 w3 U0 P, v7 a2 b- {, Z治安------(你地成日都比警察哥哥查身分證啦, 佢地都叫有做野ka la...)
" z- G& A) y* V/ J0 E4 J2 ^無饑餓---(我無聽過HK會餓死人, 但非洲....)4 L( H  q) i0 C: ^
現代化---(你依家可以起home上網,重想點?? 好多地方唔知咩叫上網)
0 D* `( t, H( X其實重有好多好野...
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6 q1 m# z. Z: m, A  z4 Y香港的不足* ^9 x' t5 Y9 c1 N' {3 V
藝術文化水平-(我成日覺得HK係需要多D art野,香港人好似唔係好識去創作咁...失望...)6 z. v" v. b8 D2 G4 T" C
綠化不足---(人太多, 太多石屎...HK人無物環保意式,樹本同人既比例都唔正常...)
3 O& _3 ^' \% r/ S, Z8 F# q7 a教育---------(不用多說, 憾事一件)" |1 T* H( ?4 G( K% W
HK人與人之間的關係越來越遠 ( 城市人的正常情況 )
7 l7 U4 m& R1 r$ m. A未吃過苦---(好多"波璃莫長" 攪到條街好熱, D人一味識開冷氣,...有無咁怕熱ar? 熱少少都話想死)
3 t" F, R' D) z" w: bHK 女仔, 曬2下又話怕曬黑...想死...(有個男的fd都係話怕曬黑,更加想死)
  U, X9 J0 P! R! OMTR / KCR--早上很多(生化危機)個個死屍咁既樣... 可唔可以有D朝氣呀?
: ~0 B: ?' V) l: N香港沒有樂擅只有娛樂圈----(by黃家駒)
& @, e7 }0 B( G& ]2 s報紙雜誌---(為左銷量...無所不作---登咸相/內容 , 登人漏光, 介紹人叫雞好去處, 作野, 登人地私生活 ,血腥...)* G) G, ?. Z1 {  c# _
太多...打唔曬...但相比起 天災人禍 ...算D o物野
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% w2 o' X- z- e. w& T7 r: \; W(有無諗過可以/應該點樣改?)
1 n. `* n. w9 e3 F) X$ w喚山不如就山... 好灰...
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6 q! V6 Y2 |/ Z) d(目中理想既香港)+ B) ]7 }; n2 z5 `2 H$ n
無諗過...而且都唔會改變到
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[ Last edited by JCer on 2005-4-23 at 02:26 PM ]
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-4-23 02:03 PM

yes, you are right, it's blessed in Hk already.
( C& h1 m! G, y7 Loh sorry, what I mean for BAD in HK, cos I could think HK, can be better than what it's happened nowadays.
作者: Eddie14    時間: 2005-4-23 02:23 PM     標題: hk is very good already

Hong Kong is actually one of the top city in the world. Hong Kong people have got resources that is much more than enough, and we should be proud of that and be thankful. However even though Hong Kong is very good already, there is still room for it to improve, but they are not really big issues. But it will never reach perfect, as no other cities can.
& h* K8 N4 R( t$ `" i# S Also, just remember that human's nature are that they never satisfy with things, they always want something bettter than what they already have.   X# v/ J, `3 U5 o' f
I think what Hong Kong people need the most in order to see how good HK is at the moment, is to do a research on different places around the world, and to compare the economic, political and social aspect with HK. Just take our mother country China as an example, and seriously compare the current situation of those people living standard with ourselves. Then look at Africa, South America, middle east, south east asia ect. U will be surprise................
作者: Eddie14    時間: 2005-4-23 02:39 PM     標題: ........

By the way...........& x. d& e7 L0 E' [5 t8 q) p
The communist party in china is actually doing a great job for our country at the moment, both internationally and nationally, especially in the economic, if u calm yourself down and analyse carefully, the real communist era has already passed, the thing that the chinese gov. doing is not as communist, it's more tend to the capitalist. So dont let the word "COMMUNIST" fool u, it's just a name.......... u should be more concern about what they are actually doing, not the impression of what u think they are doing
0 J: \! g' k. N; \# G) j& s# t! H3 KNow back to hk: Ask urself this question to see if HK is really that bad' x* R0 j, K! ]
1)Do u have enough food to eat, r u starved to death everyday?
+ v  ?; c$ K' l* a& ~% U2)Do u have a warm place to live in???4 [- h5 J* n, M! a! T, S) q
3)Do u have enough clothes to make u warm??
9 h; ]8 x8 d. v% J2 B  A& n4 M; f4)Do u have a school to go and learn?
0 l  x; @& j8 K9 Y& v5)Do u have to worry about being forced to do the things that u dont want to do by the gov.?? (eg. join the army, compulsory farming); ?8 ~1 o0 S0 W, l, q& Y
6)Is there many unnessessary entertainment for u to enjoy??? (computers, sing k, snooker, disco, shopping, pub, sports etc)
* E$ t7 H- p6 l0 v: V2 g( y* A' nIf yes for most of the questions above, then hk is not really that bad, WAKE UP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
作者: tung kin wah    時間: 2005-4-23 02:43 PM

I argee with Eddie that HK is good in general.' X& l" m* l1 Z! Q0 l! c7 s. D  ^; n

! o: [& C% ^! V) T+ iHowever, when you compare the government now with that before 1997, I think they are doing their jobs quite badly.
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I could only say  HK is STILL good, but being ruled by such a government, it is DECLINING.
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Once when I was travelling across Praque, the capital of Czeh Republic, I was so supprized at so many wonderful old buildings along the shores of the river. Jesus, their are tops are all used to be surafced with GOLD (earlier than 11th century). I can say, they are much better than any similar buildings I have seen in cities of Germany and France. However, there is over half of the old-city of Praque not being live by normal people and the citizens are quite poor in general, they cheated the tourist as much as they could. I just asked one question, "What had happened in this place ? How come such a great city falls like a place lived by ghost ??" The year is 1998, I already had the feeling that no matter HK looks how 金碧輝煌,if it is not managed well, one day it will become another Praque.
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When I come back to HK, I did a little research and know that Praque was once the capital of Easten Roman Empire.
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-4-23 03:19 PM

講真~~$ I( Z2 K! I2 K
香港已經叫好好喇~~- a8 U  l2 l# X$ [9 n! D4 h0 Q
同其他地方比, 好似非洲o個d地方咁, 食都冇得食, 咁o個d叫乜呀~~
, J, s0 G7 U, w7 s( ]其實根本就係d香港人身在福中不知福3 P) t! B0 C) L8 c6 Y
如果你問我要點改香港~~
. f3 `9 f0 s; I3 a( n5 D我就希望d人能夠提高一下自己o既水平~~; w1 O' x! _4 w
重有希望可以少污染囉~~9 l) _. `7 J( T" D2 Z+ n
最好就唔好有咁多私家車添~~( x8 b4 q" S8 A2 l9 d8 U
就係因為呢個原因搞到有好多人都有氣管炎, 鼻敏感(我都係其中一個受害人)$ I, U7 y2 s# ^) Y, d, ?
而我理想中o既香港好簡單~~
! g! e( o* k: @+ @只要人人生活安定, 冇戰爭, 冇痛苦, 人人生活得健康快樂~~/ q" X1 j/ H2 m/ U$ a! c5 q" K- a
我認為咁o既香港已經好理想
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2 b9 K1 f4 x2 V. ?p.s.呢個topic好好, 希望蟹仔可以開多d好topic俾我o地討論下, 分享下我o地o既意見
作者: Rika    時間: 2005-4-23 03:42 PM

You guys are looking at very academic factors1 y) r) s( u2 B4 h& J/ z
The ideal Hong Kong can be very simply. , a4 P& E& ~& U
Just think about the thing around you and you thing you are most interested
& w7 X  E' b% q; O; h5 YWhat government, world city are too unreal to me$ o; s- P3 g3 y* U9 k( h: W5 u
Everyone got a different ideal Hong Kong in mind/ c* u+ T6 m- |2 W5 [% R8 p6 Q
I have stayed in Australia for many years and my girlfriend is Japanese% W% C! e  m  `; i& d" Q
So it's hardly to avoid comparing Hong Kong, Japan and Australia
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First of all, Hong Kong is famous for shopping, becuase the selling is extremely low* P' u) K! U" f& L% p! l
However, the style and quality are must worse than Japan.$ r' j. e2 w1 B6 n7 _: f
My ideal Hong Kong is keeping low selling price but improve quality and style of the goods and service. This is very very hard to achieve.$ d3 b2 U  [# E  ?6 s3 j
But that is ok, we are just talking ideal. Ideal doesn't have to be achievable2 z, L; ^9 v' J/ b2 \3 u
Secondly, the Salary are very high in Japan. High salary improve stardard of living3 U2 o8 }! z- d9 p1 k" a% I- u+ B
So, people eat better, wear better, and even go for treavel
- A2 i* R/ K# i- ?' W! OThridly, Australia has huge area of land, hardly any to see buildings,
9 K  m( d. a7 B) DPeople are living a house. A house is hardly any to see in HK.
( _' i1 w3 {# l8 ?3 e7 i$ OMy ideal Hong Kong is more land, more house- J8 \' a5 i: S% Y3 \$ T2 b- ^

( H3 J3 e1 g& A! E2 h3 e$ F4 v7 KAll other thing between people, I respect this is unique Hong Kong cultue/ V4 ?  |* A& ^; M/ H. k
In my ideal Hong Kong, the attitude are still the same, such as MK style.
* t4 e6 O5 T( {. |I'm not laughing at MK. Sorry about that
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& }2 F  M- l/ F+ Z) u* f4 ILastly, I don't wanna see too many Chinese in Hong Kong' v" }$ c8 Y/ ^, T5 B6 _" Q1 _
I see all Chinese as foreigner. I know Hong Kong is a Chinese city
- M" ?( f/ e, }! B0 }But in my ideal Hong Kong, Hong Kong must be the most population' j2 d( A: I0 D

4 A* z. f2 x4 r# W' v  l+ E* ^Isn't it very simply!?
作者: srfqt1    時間: 2005-4-23 03:52 PM

老實講!香港真係唔差呀2 Y4 g6 X" P+ v2 F% o  h  M: u
做人有時真係要知足常樂,唔好凡事強求; z  |1 u& B, r# D) x. c4 {& S# K
有時覺得香港冇乜天災,就已經係好理想的家1 t0 N# p; c2 T2 w* O* |
你睇o下南亞海嘯,一陣間就家破人亡,咩都冇晒
  a  I, {1 P6 C1 {  C你係香港,講得衰d,你冇野做,冇屋住,你可以攤開手板問政府攞& p$ n2 Z' ~$ q' o0 n( N" s
政府點衰都要睇住你,係其他地方有冇咁著數呀
1 Y) W; C. S! B1 C3 [* c做人一定係有得就必有失
0 c& H2 C1 q; p  B- v$ [3 m我自己來講,就算對呢個社會幾失望9 Z( y6 ~4 Z+ }) {/ P6 A5 V0 I
但是香港始終係我的家,我會對香港不離不棄/ s2 u+ ?  w! W5 Z
堅持留下香港, 而家一齊共患難,將來一齊共富貴(心靈上的富貴都夠架啦)
作者: Rika    時間: 2005-4-23 03:55 PM

Originally posted by srfqt1 at 2005-4-23 03:52 PM:
3 V3 ^! {) ], E7 O) O老實講!香港真係唔差呀
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Excellent~
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7 ?1 E7 ^9 c1 V0 r2 |知足常樂
作者: crap    時間: 2005-4-24 06:53 PM

今日搵到的資料:* {; v+ I* s+ T  K  j  N+ D- Z

# X3 ~; f; X7 D3 \若把倫敦劃分為以網球場為單位, 每倫敦居民可分得1個網球場的居住面積
1 O* N+ Q5 T9 N! B7 s香港市民則要25人share一個網球場....
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我都唔覺得香港有好多野唔好, 不過理想中如果可以少d人會好好多^^"
+ ]$ v" b7 v! P: {) H2 x我好耐無響香港行街行到直線.....
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-4-24 07:01 PM

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-24 06:53 PM:3 i  W9 L8 }' t! ^4 n+ H# b' i8 t7 M3 [
今日搵到的資料:
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若把倫敦劃分為以網 ...
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我而且確係~~+ c* K! D% i3 G9 W' A( B1 l
香港地少人多~~, g& Y0 n- h! z5 t3 x$ o
d地又貴~~) L0 M. B4 q, w
所以呢方面同外國比真係冇得比 =.="




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