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作者: jordi 時間: 2005-9-4 12:01 AM 標題: 艾歷臣越教越差 , 真係冇眼睇 .....

我咁寫包單 , england 06 年實o羅唔到世杯 !
艾歷臣越教越差 , 後備參差 , 真係冇眼睇 .....
我寧願佢地打番 442 , 433 beckham , lampard , 謝拉特唔協調 ,
好多時爭分波 , 最慘防中唔曉守 , 体力好都冇用 ,
唉 , 佢地有三分 , 我就失五分 , 心淡

p.s 唔好俾我再見到 glen johnson and richardson ,
o尼兩條友 , 前者懶高章 , 後者過人冇料 , hold 波又差 , 唉 !

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 12:05 AM

噢 . . . 嬴波卻輸口碑 . . .

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 12:06 AM

英格蘭後備差都唔係今年先知嫁啦,其實最緊要正選果班贏到波,贏既比數大,咁後備果班先唔會有咩失誤,起碼用新人既時候d新人都唔會咁緊張~

作者: fffffa 時間: 2005-9-4 12:10 AM

條友我一開始已經唔覺得佢有料..........做d野完全9唔搭8,打4-5-1都夠膽死,碧咸打防中,你番去打飛機喇~~~1

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 12:11 AM

英格蘭後備 = 荒失失奇兵 : p

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 12:12 AM

Originally posted by fffffa at 2005-9-4 12:10 AM:
條友我一開始已經唔覺得佢有料..........做d野完全9唔搭8,打4-5-1都夠膽死,碧咸打防中,你番去打飛機喇~~~1

如果唔係碧咸打防中係後場狂斬比SWP都唔會有咩攻勢.....呢點算艾力臣好野

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 12:13 AM

林柏特、碧咸、謝拉特都塞晒喺中間，艾歷臣好似連排陣排咗咁耐都搞唔掂 . . .

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 12:19 AM

Originally posted by cthim83 at 2005-9-4 12:11 AM:
英格蘭後備 = 荒失失奇兵 : p

夏格維斯,菲臘仔.....歐國盃我最記得><"

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 12:21 AM

Originally posted by cthim83 at 2005-9-4 12:13 AM:
林柏特、碧咸、謝拉特都塞晒喺中間，艾歷臣好似連排陣排咗咁耐都搞唔掂 . . .

林柏特同謝拉特好似唔係好夾咁= ="

作者: jordi 時間: 2005-9-4 12:23 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 00:21:

林柏特同謝拉特好似唔係好夾咁= ="

function 差o吾多

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 12:26 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 12:21 AM:

林柏特同謝拉特好似唔係好夾咁= ="

唔一齊出佢地又好難同球迷交代 . . .

作者: edward1906 時間: 2005-9-4 12:28 AM

Originally posted by cthim83 at 2005-9-4 12:26 AM:

唔一齊出佢地又好難同球迷交代 . . .

史高斯仲係度就唔會有呢個問題

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 12:31 AM

所以我都覺得佢有問題，執極條中場線都唔係好協調 . . .

作者: gggghhhhhhhfff 時間: 2005-9-4 12:58 AM

雖然碧咸可以打防守中場~~不過打右是他本人最純熟~~!!
仲有~~好地地打4-4-2,冇啦啦打嘜嘢4-5-1~~!@@

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 01:02 AM

Originally posted by gggghhhhhhhfff at 2005-9-4 12:58 AM:
雖然碧咸可以打防守中場~~不過打右是他本人最純熟~~!!
仲有~~好地地打4-4-2,冇啦啦打嘜嘢4-5-1~~!@@

打中場中好過叫佢打防守中場啦,佢又攻又守仲好過佢少攻多守><"

作者: sino ko 時間: 2005-9-4 01:08 AM

arm arm 看完england個場,我覺得佢條防線真係危危符....差d輸得...

作者: night 時間: 2005-9-4 01:31 AM

唔洗你寫包單...

英格蘭應該都拎唔到wc 06

作者: cream 時間: 2005-9-4 01:42 AM

I think it is Beckham who don't want to play RM himself
He keep drifting inside in 4-4-2.

I think Richardson is good though
Glen Johnson probably no chance anyway.

作者: shaqkobe 時間: 2005-9-4 02:25 AM

時間耐左，教練既專注力同雄心都隨時間流失，如果表現持繼不振，都係時候換師。

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 02:34 AM

咁你地覺得邊個岩教= ="

作者: night 時間: 2005-9-4 02:39 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 02:34 AM:
咁你地覺得邊個岩教= ="

黎新祥幾好啊

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-4 02:44 AM

艾歷臣根本唔敢用d有態但名氣唔大嘅球員,奧雲停賽就打單箭頭,如果朗尼傷埋咪唔用前鋒
對威爾斯都唔敢用新人,迪科爾同好多威爾斯國腳係英超都踢唔少啦,唔比機會佢地又點可以成大器,正選都有機會停賽受傷,唔培養後備點爭冠軍(況且所謂正選都唔係真係好好波啫)

作者: fffffa 時間: 2005-9-4 03:36 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 02:34 AM:
咁你地覺得邊個岩教= ="

古廉權呀~~~!領導晨曦勇奪四冠王既教練~~~wc06,佢話食菜咁食呀!

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 03:51 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-4 02:44 AM:
艾歷臣根本唔敢用d有態但名氣唔大嘅球...

佢就係衰呢樣同埋之前果d賽事防守唔夠認真,又唔會話做d正常既換人,如果高治冇受傷,搵佢拍AJ+兩翼側擊嘛,可以試下得唔得,如果唔得先換返朗尼入場,如果得既咪多一種進攻方式囉......

作者: skjeiw 時間: 2005-9-4 09:11 AM

叫雲加去教啦...佢幾信任d新人,俾足機會...

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 10:21 AM

艾歷臣都係教"順境"波先得，有個勢 keep 住去先掂，但係強勢都會有衰落嘅一日，家陣個勢回落咗 d 就搞成咁 . . .

作者: jordi 時間: 2005-9-4 11:48 AM

荷蘭有雲巴士頓 , 德國有奇連士文 ,
保加利亞有史岱哲哥夫 , 羅馬尼亞有赫傑 ,
英格蘭仲o吾叫連尼加教 ?

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 11:49 AM

Originally posted by jordi at 2005-9-4 11:48 AM:
荷蘭有雲巴士頓 , 德國有奇連士文 ,
保加利亞有史岱哲哥夫 , 羅馬尼亞有赫傑 ,
英格蘭仲o吾叫連尼加教 ?

連尼加好似走咗去講波

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 11:56 AM

Originally posted by jordi at 2005-9-4 11:48 AM:
荷蘭有雲巴士頓 , 德國有奇連士文 ,
保加利亞有史岱哲哥夫 , 羅馬尼亞有赫傑 ,
英格蘭仲o吾叫連尼加教 ?

我諗英格蘭冇名宿肯教英格蘭國家隊

作者: michael86 時間: 2005-9-4 12:12 PM

我只可以講一句
我相信英格蘭！

作者: sonyguy 時間: 2005-9-4 01:16 PM

我睇左下半場...
都ok 丫...
我諗係你地高估左英格蘭既能力...
又或者過份低估左威爾斯既能力者...
英格蘭對果d 超魚腩球隊都係咁上下...
威爾斯唔係魚腩黎架~~

我地係呢到吹吹水...
就梗係可以好多意見...
梗係好多陣可以試...試呢個...試果個..
搵占士打前鋒都可以...
但今朝果場係世杯外圍賽架...
點試...
拎三分就係目標...
話之打得精唔精彩!!

好似上場咁...友誼賽對丹麥...
下半場換下人試下...
點知輸左...
又比人鬧餐死...

一句講晒...
大家對英格蘭既期望太高...

作者: wer 時間: 2005-9-4 01:20 PM

Originally posted by sonyguy at 2005-9-4 13:16:
我睇左下半場...
都ok 丫...
我諗係...

大家都希望英格蘭捧世盃
期望大左d

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 01:52 PM

Originally posted by michael86 at 2005-9-4 12:12 PM:
我只可以講一句
我相信英格蘭！

我都係！無論英格蘭打成點我都會支持同相信佢！

作者: 我‧愛‧你 時間: 2005-9-4 02:06 PM

Originally posted by skjeiw at 2005-9-4 09:11 AM:
叫雲加去教啦...佢幾信任d新人,俾足機會...

連佢自已祖國法國叫佢去教波佢都拒絕...會去英格蘭教？

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 02:09 PM

Originally posted by 我‧愛‧你 at 2005-9-4 02:06 PM:

連佢自已祖國法國叫佢去教波佢都拒絕...會去英格蘭教？

可能佢唔想晒時間,專心教阿仙奴= ="

作者: 我‧愛‧你 時間: 2005-9-4 02:10 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 02:09 PM:

可能佢唔想晒時間,專心教阿仙奴= ="

我聽過佢話遲Ｄ離開阿仙奴

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 02:11 PM

Originally posted by 我‧愛‧你 at 2005-9-4 02:10 PM:

我聽過佢話遲Ｄ離開阿仙奴

遲d啫係幾時先= ="

作者: cthim83 時間: 2005-9-4 02:11 PM

Originally posted by sonyguy at 2005-9-4 01:16 PM:
我睇左下半場...
都ok 丫...
我諗係...

威爾斯絕對唔係魚腩
更何況始終係作客

作者: 我‧愛‧你 時間: 2005-9-4 02:12 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 02:11 PM:

遲d啫係幾時先= ="

唔知..我好似年頭睇過Ｅ則新聞

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 02:13 PM

Originally posted by 我‧愛‧你 at 2005-9-4 02:12 PM:

唔知..我好似年頭睇過Ｅ則新聞

哦~

作者: 我‧愛‧你 時間: 2005-9-4 02:27 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 02:13 PM:

哦~

雲格走左唔知阿仙奴會點

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 02:31 PM

係= ="希望唔會唔掂啦~

作者: HansChan 時間: 2005-9-4 02:36 PM

Originally posted by night at 2005-9-4 02:39 AM:

黎新祥幾好啊

我就鍾意郭家明既九零一喇!

作者: HansChan 時間: 2005-9-4 02:43 PM

我覺得臣爺最大毛病係佢想英格蘭以佢教拉素嗰時甘教........
意大利波特色係防守好......佢當年教拉素以雄厚既防守能力加入佢既進攻意色.....所以當年拉素捧盃, 佢哋既足球係精彩既!
佢教英格蘭甘耐就悶足甘耐.........屎高屎响度都還好....但我覺得係屎高屎個人質數夠高....唔係臣爺用得佢好.......
睇返而家英格蘭中場....人腳真係唔差.....即使謝拉特同林柏特大家有共通處.....但身為領隊,你用得佢哋好.....我認為係唔會有衝突的........
總之.....英格蘭要到06世界盃之後先有返身之日!(臣爺好似話教到06之嘛!)

作者: 我‧愛‧你 時間: 2005-9-4 02:58 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-4 02:13 PM:

哦~

到時請moyes黎教

作者: calvinkty 時間: 2005-9-4 03:42 PM

轉又死,唔轉又死.......你班大帝想點......

作者: wer 時間: 2005-9-4 03:42 PM

Originally posted by 我‧愛‧你 at 2005-9-4 14:10:

我聽過佢話遲Ｄ離開阿仙奴

雲格應該今年不會走

作者: 艾奧羅斯 時間: 2005-9-4 06:32 PM

艾歷臣唔係越教越差,係冇令英格蘭好過!
緋聞就勁!
都咁多年,成績麻麻,都唔換人!
係咪真係搵唔到人代佢呢??定係冇人肯接手??又或者英格蘭足總已經滿足現狀??

作者: Dicksonheng 時間: 2005-9-4 06:34 PM

重組中場將是艾歷臣目前最大難題

作者: scorerhk 時間: 2005-9-4 07:38 PM

Originally posted by edward1906 at 2005-9-4 12:28 AM:

史高斯仲係度就唔會有呢個問題

不如叫史高斯又復出啦

作者: gogo8281 時間: 2005-9-4 07:48 PM

唔可以太多既歸咎領隊﹐英格蘭近十年
換左四個領隊﹐都冇人能將英格蘭帶上
一流既行列﹐關鍵唔在領隊。
主要問題係同類型球員太多﹐唔夠多元
化﹐前鋒從主力到後備都係速度型﹐
兩翼都係速度至上卻冇傳中﹐中場
竟然擁有兩個風格100%相同既主力﹐後
上﹐傳球冇問題但都係創造力欠奉。
後防還好﹐總算係三線中最平衡既。

作者: skjeiw 時間: 2005-9-4 08:45 PM

英格蘭都幾黑仔ga la...話中堅打崩頭...依家傷晒...前鋒原本都ok ga...依家得朗尼好d,中場以為有林柏特、謝拉特掂梗...點知又唔夾...黑過墨汁

作者: 事但 時間: 2005-9-4 08:47 PM

艾歷臣一向都係一個唔敢變o既領隊,
帶左英格蘭咁多年,有幾可見到佢肯用新人?
今次變陣,其中一個原因都係因為佢唔敢用迪科爾代替奧雲.

不過,佢亦都難做.
佢一定唔敢唔用林柏特,謝拉特,碧咸,
如果用依3個,中場仲可以點轉?
打4-5-1,我唸都係為左要擺上面3個人係中場,但係又唔敢打3-5-2;
不過最大鑊係,依3個都唔係正宗o既防守中場;
再加上朗尼係曼聯已經轉打後上前鋒,
突然要佢打最前面,係會唔習慣.

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-4 11:18 PM

咁就要睇下奧雲既表現喇~希望唔會有咩差池啦,否則就冇前鋒可用= ="

作者: scorerhk 時間: 2005-9-5 01:19 AM

要碧咸,謝拉特,林柏特,祖高爾4個攻擊型球員,是旦一個踢防中就點都講唔通

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-5 01:30 AM

其實根本唔需要變陣,用迪科爾代替奧雲咪得囉,一隊波如果隊形好,有默契,換一個球員應該唔係問題,你睇巴西冇大哨咪又係搵羅賓奴代佢,唔通又改打4-5-1咩,球隊打開4-4-2,為左1個球員停賽連陣都變埋,又要其他球員再適應,撁一髮動全身,有冇搞錯

作者: scorerhk 時間: 2005-9-5 01:47 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-5 01:30 AM:
其實根本唔需要變陣,用迪科爾代替奧雲...

我覺得艾歷臣想暗示俾奧雲知,in this moment佢依然係英軍正選,唔會用人替佢住..........住
so,周三英軍應該會出翻佢

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-5 02:08 AM

Originally posted by scorerhk at 2005-9-5 01:47:

我覺得艾歷臣想暗示俾奧雲知,in this moment佢依然係英軍正選,唔會用人替佢住..........住
so,周三英軍應該會出翻佢

就算出迪科爾,我諗連迪科爾佢自己都知奧雲先係正選,奧雲擺明唔出得都唔出迪科爾,咁選佢做乜?

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-5 03:06 AM

Originally posted by scorerhk at 2005-9-5 01:19 AM:
要碧咸,謝拉特,林柏特,祖高爾4個攻擊型球員,是旦一個踢防中就點都講唔通

其實林柏特同碧咸應該會注意防守多d,你睇下佢地係車仔同皇馬既打法就知~

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-5 03:07 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-5 01:30 AM:
其實根本唔需要變陣,用迪科爾代替奧雲...

我覺得連換都唔洗換,奧雲同迪科爾打法差唔多,除非奧雲冇狀態,否則換黎都冇用~

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-5 04:09 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-5 03:07:

我覺得連換都唔洗換,奧雲同迪科爾打法差唔多,除非奧雲冇狀態,否則換黎都冇用~

咁奧雲停賽唔出得嘛,如果奧雲同迪科爾打法差唔多,咁出佢基本上英格蘭連陣都唔駛轉,打法照舊

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-5 05:13 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-5 04:09 AM:

咁奧雲停賽唔出得嘛,如果奧雲同迪科爾打法差唔多,咁出佢基本上英格蘭連陣都唔駛轉,打法照舊

哦,你講緊果場,咁又係呀,既然奧雲停賽咪再試下迪科爾囉,無謂搞埋d咩轉陣啦~贏到就話好彩啫,贏唔到咪死???

作者: rest365days 時間: 2005-9-5 11:02 AM

嗰晚直落睇埋蘇格蘭vs.意大利, 我覺得蘇格蘭踢得好過英格蘭好多.

作者: scorerhk 時間: 2005-9-5 01:36 PM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-5 02:08 AM:

就算出迪科爾,我諗連迪科爾佢自己都知奧雲先係正選,奧雲擺明唔出得都唔出迪科爾,咁選佢做乜?

做後備

作者: chicken 時間: 2005-9-5 03:30 PM

Originally posted by rest365days at 2005-9-5 11:02 AM:
嗰晚直落睇埋蘇格蘭vs.意大利, 我覺得蘇格蘭踢得好過英格蘭好多.

Yes the scotland k.miller played very well, even nesta cannot mark him successfully. Also their 10 hartley has very good dribbling and crossing skill too. Scotland played quite well.

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-5 03:37 PM

胡禮菲臘斯係曼城時打正選國家隊輪到戴亞都未輪到佢,一過車仔打後備就變陣都要出佢,唔怪得咁多人想過車仔啦

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-5 11:19 PM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-5 03:37 PM:
胡禮菲臘斯係曼城時打正選國家隊輪到戴亞都未輪到佢,一過車仔打後備就變陣都要出佢,唔怪得咁多人想過車仔啦

咁佢的確好過戴亞既= ="

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 12:15 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-5 23:19:

咁佢的確好過戴亞既= ="

但佢踢曼城時就冇得出,除非車仔時的胡禮菲臘斯好過戴亞,而曼城時的胡禮菲臘斯就差過戴亞啦

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 12:18 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 12:15 AM:

但佢踢曼城時就冇得出,除非車仔時的胡禮菲臘斯好過戴亞,而曼城時的胡禮菲臘斯就差過戴亞啦

你講得啱,依家車仔既SWP的確好過依家既戴亞= ="

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 12:36 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 00:18:

你講得啱,依家車仔既SWP的確好過依家既戴亞= ="

咁上季曼城時嘅胡禮菲臘斯就差過戴亞??

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 01:06 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 12:36 AM:

咁上季曼城時嘅胡禮菲臘斯就差過戴亞??

我相信唔會囉~戴亞不嬲都唔突出既

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 02:21 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 01:06:

我相信唔會囉~戴亞不嬲都唔突出既

但過往一兩年,戴亞在國家隊出場機會絕對比胡禮菲臘斯多,但佢一過車仔就好受艾歷臣重視,英格蘭領隊在用人方面實在有太多顧慮

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 02:23 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 02:21 AM:

但過往一兩年,戴亞在國家隊出場機會絕對比胡禮菲臘斯多,但佢一過車仔就好受艾歷臣重視,英格蘭領隊在用人方面實在有太多顧慮

SWP近幾年先有人留意到佢,戴亞係紐卡素打成點係人都知,
雖然佢係國家隊既出場機會係比SWP多,但係SWP既係各方面都比佢優勝.......我諗佢唔係受艾歷臣重用既,係想試下比佢打正選啫,唔通英格蘭真係用4-5-1咩= ="

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 02:31 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 02:23:

SWP近幾年先有人留意到佢,戴亞係紐...

04年歐洲國家杯戴亞出場機會差不多可以話每場都必然後備上陣,胡禮菲臘斯就好似冇乜上陣機會,要試陣就對丹麥試啦,人地巴西明知細哨停賽,就熱身賽都唔出佢,咁先係備戰嘛,出一個下場一定排唔到嘅陣黎熱身,正式比賽攞黎試陣?唔怪得66年之後都未羸過大賽啦

作者: jordi 時間: 2005-9-6 03:06 AM

dyer 得個名乍嗎 ~

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 05:01 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 02:31 AM:
04年歐洲國家杯戴亞出場機會差不多可以話每場都必然後備上陣,胡禮菲臘斯就好似冇乜上陣機會,要試陣就對丹麥試啦,人地巴西明知細哨停賽,就熱身賽都唔出佢,咁先係備戰嘛,出一個下場一定排唔到嘅陣黎熱身,正式比賽攞黎試陣?唔怪得66年之後都未羸過大賽啦

每場都後備出場又如何....夏格維斯,菲臘仔都基本上是英格蘭04歐國盃後備必上陣既球員,
那你認為佢地比SWP勁???我就唔認為佢地比SWP勁,再加上當年SWP都好似未入選國家隊,
佢對威爾斯黎比SWP試下打d世界賽外圍賽既賽事,我覺得都冇咩特別既問題,反而佢打得幾好,再加上佢唔係只係試SWP,係試埋碧咸可唔可以勝任防中同埋變陣後會有咩問題,唔通佢用楊格又係錯誤咩???
我覺得英格蘭係對威爾斯果場試新陣冇咩問題,因為友誼賽同正式比賽唔同,正式比賽關係到外圍賽既成績,球員們自然會比較落力踢,
但友誼賽就唔會關係到咩成績,某些球員自然會比較放鬆,例如:里奧,占士.....所以搵呢場試下陣都無可口非,
雖然呢場贏左,但個陣得出黎既成效明顯係唔好,我諗艾歷臣試4-5-1係係慘敗丹麥之後先諗出黎既一個所謂的對策,
但丹麥果場明顯唔關個陣事,係占士痴左線同下半場冇左泰利既問題而已.......艾歷臣都傻傻地既

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 05:02 AM

Originally posted by jordi at 2005-9-6 03:06 AM:
dyer 得個名乍嗎 ~

碧咸退出國家隊之後,右翼呢個位以佢既實力黎講根本爭唔贏SWP

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 03:04 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 05:01:

每場都後備出場又如何....夏格維斯,...

我唔覺得戴亞好過胡禮菲臘斯,只係覺得打細球會嘅球員唔受人重視,胡禮菲臘斯在曼城時國家隊都未必入到,但一過車仔打後備都踢冇幾場波就正選喇
友誼賽唔試陣咁為乜打友誼賽?如果外圍賽試陣失敗輸波代價可能好大,因為波蘭現在只不過比英格蘭多失1分,嚴格黎講英格蘭係唔可以失分,巴西阿根廷外圍賽試陣就無所謂,因為已經出左線,對手友誼賽冇咁落力唔緊要,最緊要係自己球員適唔適應,教練一眼就睇得出
如果你認為友誼賽唔試陣應該留番正式比賽去試唔緊要,但球隊輸波就唔好怨

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 03:13 PM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 03:04 PM:
我唔覺得戴亞好過胡禮菲臘斯,只係覺得打細球會嘅球員唔受人重視,胡禮菲臘斯在曼城時國家隊都未必入到,但一過車仔打後備都踢冇幾場波就正選喇
友誼賽唔試陣咁為乜打友誼賽?如果外圍賽試陣失敗輸波代價可能好大,因為波蘭現在只不過比英格蘭多失1分,嚴格黎講英格蘭係唔可以失分,巴西阿根廷外圍賽試陣就無所謂,因為已經出左線,對手友誼賽冇咁落力唔緊要,最緊要係自己球員適唔適應,教練一眼就睇得出
如果你認為友誼賽唔試陣應該留番正式比賽去試唔緊要,但球隊輸波就唔好怨

SWP根本就係有料之人,就算過左去車仔有冇正選都入硬國家隊嫁啦,可以話碧咸係國家隊個位既接班人,就算佢對威爾斯係正選我諗重要既賽事都唔會比佢打正選啦,
我唔係話唔應該係友誼賽試陣,只係話唔應該話佢地係外圍賽試陣唔啱同唔好啫,
當然啦,外圍賽試陣如果輸波既話代價可能好大,但依家英格蘭贏左波,口碑一樣係差,再加上我諗艾歷臣都睇到個陣有咩唔好既地方,
我諗星期三對北愛爾蘭都唔會用4-5-1喇啩,如果佢照用4--5-1既話依家都炒得喇,唔洗等06世界盃過左先炒,
就算球隊係外圍賽試陣輸波我亦唔會怨,因為佢有好陣唔用仲試陣既話抵輸

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 03:30 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 15:13:

SWP根本就係有料之人,就算過左去車...

艾歷臣明知奧雲停賽,對威爾斯唔出得,如果佢想排4-5-1係咪應該襯對丹麥時試下呢?起碼知道得唔得或有乜要改善,外圍賽試陣係唔係唔啱同唔好就要睇下佢原本有冇機會試,如果奧雲對威爾斯出得但踢踢吓傷左,對北愛爾蘭唔出得要變陣試下就無可厚非,但明知有得試而唔試,走去外圍賽試就唔係好明智,而且威爾斯唔係魚腩,好明顯艾歷臣唔能深謀遠慮

作者: gogo8281 時間: 2005-9-6 04:41 PM

可唔可以講係習慣﹐英格蘭足總好似
中意搵較為溫和既領隊。
試下回憶一下﹐可曾出現過對球員強
硬既領隊﹖艾歷臣﹑GELAHAM TAYLOR﹑
奇雲基緊甚至BOBBY ROBSON﹐都係惡
唔出樣。
如果搵一個能夠力排眾議既領隊﹐會否有
幫助﹖

作者: brightlee 時間: 2005-9-6 04:50 PM

The major problem is: in England, Media could effect a lot ..... England International team.

That's why Brain Clough had 2 chances in 80s to take over England International.
Finally he didn't get this job due to the pressure from media....

That's only ONE England coach who has a bad relationship with media,
and he got a good result:

SIR Jack Ramsey

作者: Jeans 時間: 2005-9-6 05:18 PM 標題: 艾歷臣指三名星級中場分工混亂

6, September, 2005
事緣英格蘭領隊艾歷臣指國家隊三名星級中場碧咸、謝拉特及林柏特在場上分工混亂，負責的工作全部一樣，碧咸經常移入中路，而謝拉特及林柏特又無法堵塞中場漏洞，艾歷臣希望三人盡快解決分工問題。

Sven-Goran Eriksson has revealed how he told David Beckham, Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard their midfield confusion must end once and for all.

Rather than having his hand forced by player power, the reality is that Eriksson's meeting with his senior midfield trio last Tuesday saw him express his frustration at their displays against Denmark.

With Beckham drifting inside from his right wing role too often in Copenhagen, while Lampard and Gerrard were unable to plug the defensive gaps, the England coach made the decision to switch formations for Saturday's World Cup qualifier against Wales.

The trio's midfield partnership seemed to work much better in the 1-0 victory in Cardiff, with Beckham resolutely sticking to his holding role.

However, while Eriksson may still revert to 4-4-2 in the future, the England coach revealed the truth behind last Tuesday's meeting at the team's St Albans hotel.

"Before the Denmark game we'd played 4-4-2 and they did it extremely well. But as soon as we got into trouble against Denmark, there were three of them doing the same kind of job," he said.

"Because of that, I took them in on Tuesday and said we had to sort it forever, that they couldn't all do the same job.

"We had filter-004ions about it and what solution we could find. After listening to them, I decided to play like we did against Wales."

No wonder Beckham was so disciplined, the England captain previously prone to moving in from his right flank in search of the ball rather than staying out wide.

"He did it rather well in the first half against Denmark but not when we got into trouble. But against Wales, the team were more balanced, at least for more than one hour," said Eriksson.

He admitted it is tempting to retain that formation against Northern Ireland on Wednesday, although Michael Owen's return after suspension makes a 4-4-2 formation more likely, with Shaun Wright-Phillips dropped unless Joe Cole fails to recover from a slight calf strain.

"If you talk about Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham and Cole, they've played many games together in a 4-4-2 formation very well," added Eriksson.

"But against Wales, all the team defended very well. Wales had only one chance to score and the team was very balanced. There was no confusion at all about what to do.

"When David Beckham gets the ball [in a central role], he has more time and he has all the pitch. Offensively, he's one of the best.

"Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard also did well. That was Steven's first game in two weeks while Frank is always good. He's not in top form yet for us or Chelsea but once he gets there, he'll stay there for the rest of the season."

作者: scorerhk 時間: 2005-9-6 05:19 PM

版主無需動氣,
問題不在於球員能力,而是名氣,
我想大家都有聽過一d言論話,有d領隊在傳媒壓力下同為保自己飯碗的心態上.會作出自保的不理智決定,就係用名牌球員輸波好過用新仔輪波,責任上無咁大

艾生依然係在意奧雲先有咁既決定,在對丹麥佢唔係無用新人嘗試代替奧雲,而係佢對新人表現不滿意,
但佢在對威爾斯變陣,係想試SWP定求其取勝就唔知啦

作者: skjeiw 時間: 2005-9-6 05:22 PM

慘呀...以為呢三個中場可以屈晒機...點知...

作者: 清揚 時間: 2005-9-6 05:29 PM

用謝拉特專注防務,林伯特打番自己,條右路比番件7号斬波咪ok low,艾力臣先生,你系教頭黎架,膠少陣當幫忙la.....

作者: chungngo 時間: 2005-9-6 05:48 PM

I think he manage England very bad

作者: skjeiw 時間: 2005-9-6 05:52 PM

越教越差...佢成日為一兩個人呢變陣..完全唔理人地慣唔慣..呢點係不能容忍

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 11:19 PM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 03:30 PM:

艾歷臣明知奧雲停賽,對威爾斯唔出得...

我都話佢可能係慘敗丹麥先至諗埋呢d咁既野出黎........

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 11:21 PM

Originally posted by scorerhk at 2005-9-6 05:19 PM:
版主無需動氣,
問題不在於球員能力,...

事實上英格蘭d球員,名氣大既踢得比較好,唔係話名氣細既踢得唔好,但係仲未係時候做正選,我諗佢用SWP未必全部係因為想試佢~

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 11:21 PM

Originally posted by skjeiw at 2005-9-6 05:52 PM:
越教越差...佢成日為一兩個人呢變陣..完全唔理人地慣唔慣..呢點係不能容忍

成日???n年冇變過陣wo= ="

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 11:22 PM

Originally posted by 清揚 at 2005-9-6 05:29 PM:
用謝拉特專注防務,林伯特打番自己,條右路比番件7号斬波咪ok low,艾力臣先生,你系教頭黎架,膠少陣當幫忙la.....

人地冇名你叫???
你掉轉左啦,應該係林柏特做防守,謝拉特專注進攻,碧咸斬返波,絕對比4-5-1好~

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Jeans at 2005-9-6 05:18 PM:
6, September, 2005
事緣英格蘭領隊...

咁睇就知球員唔慣4-5-1啦,碧咸同謝仔都係打慣4-4-2既....一時之間叫佢地適應4-5-1係冇可能既事黎= ="

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-6 11:43 PM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 23:19:

我都話佢可能係慘敗丹麥先至諗埋呢d咁既野出黎........

英格蘭慘敗於丹麥腳下係個別球員問題,上半場4-4-2發揮絕對正常,下半場輸係占士,格連莊臣犯錯,根本唔關陣式事,作為一個專業領隊應該知道轉陣係於事無補,只要唔出占士,格連莊臣就冇問題

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-6 11:54 PM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-6 11:43 PM:

英格蘭慘敗於丹麥腳下係個別球員問...

但佢唔係咁諗呢,佢可能以為連個陣都係有問題,但佢已經冇選占士.....哈哈,依家格連莊臣都比楊格取代左

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-7 12:05 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-6 23:54:

但佢唔係咁諗呢,佢可能以為連個陣都係有問題,但佢已經冇選占士.....哈哈,依家格連莊臣都比楊格取代左

唔通你都覺得對丹麥上半場個4-4-2陣同球員配搭唔掂,我諗艾歷臣都唔會,佢不過係唔敢出迪科爾打正選,而要夾梗轉陣騰出多個中場位比胡禮菲臘斯,因為佢唔敢唔出碧咸,若碧咸冇傷冇病唔退休胡禮菲臘斯有排都冇得出,佢先要轉陣就胡禮菲臘斯,但係排陣係因人而排,定先排陣後選人呢,如果你隊波有大哨,阿祖,舒夫真高同雲佬你又會唔會排4-2-4呢,又或因狀態而出2個前鋒呢

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-7 12:16 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-7 12:05 AM:

唔通你都覺得對丹麥上半場個4-4-2陣...

4-4-2陣不嬲都冇問題,打左咁多年,依家先話有問題係唔係有d白痴呢???球員黎講都係格連莊臣有問題啫,下半場又冇啦啦換占士入黎,死得更加快,我諗佢唔會狂用4-5-1黎就SWP啩,係人都知佢係國家隊要正選要等碧咸退休嫁啦......雖然佢係勁,但唔應該用個陣去就一個球員,試一次已經夠啦,
如果我你講果d前鋒我都唔會出4-2-4啦下話,有腦既都知點擺啦~

作者: ciger 時間: 2005-9-7 12:22 AM

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-9-7 00:16:

4-4-2陣不嬲都冇問題,打左咁多年,依...

問題就係4-4-2陣不嬲都冇問題,但佢走去轉陣??為乜?
試陣就對上一場試啦,依家同波蘭D分咬得咁緊,每一場波都應該審慎處理

作者: abc123aa 時間: 2005-9-7 12:32 AM

Originally posted by ciger at 2005-9-7 12:22 AM:

問題就係4-4-2陣不嬲都冇問題,但佢走去轉陣??為乜?
試陣就對上一場試啦,依家同波蘭D分咬得咁緊,每一場波都應該審慎處理

為乜就佢自己先知~或許佢信心好大

作者: gogo8281 時間: 2005-9-7 09:07 PM

林柏特﹑謝拉特@球會職責都係進攻為主
到左國家隊兩個人都係好攻輕守﹐不太願
意只係防守﹐導致中場失去屏障使後防壓
力增加。所以艾生先會嘗試4-5-1將碧咸擺
中路就係希望佢多多參與防守而佢亦交足
功課。但問題係防守始終唔係佢強項﹐對
威爾士都仲係冇問題﹐但當進入世界杯就
可能要面對阿根廷﹑墨西哥等世界一流強
隊就非常不足。
如果轉返4-4-2﹐林﹑謝兩人坐中﹐碧咸打
返右路﹐問題依然未解決﹐林﹑謝邊個守
邊個攻﹖就睇艾生魄力夠唔夠﹐兩人二選
其一﹐換一個防守力強既後腰﹐不過恐怕
壓力唔小﹐尤其係球迷及媒體。

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