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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ v+ {1 u  W) Q, c, t- [. Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  M. ]4 q9 ^4 B* \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% c4 R( }4 Z% k6 ?3 U8 d* F
why this happen? just simple........punishment) [7 S5 _" c- o! x) l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! ^+ i9 Y' |5 r: `
but why jesus need to do this?% Z7 _+ v) }1 R# e7 O6 {, U* {1 k
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. ^" k# \8 p- G4 b2 l: Q) Y7 fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 d/ q* l+ F0 ?7 [+ [
what will u do???) F4 Z9 n7 I) F" P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% K- q* G6 ^% ]% w7 n& [bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ C2 s2 n! n, A) w5 s/ Ohonestly, if there is jesus1 ~$ l# C" h0 S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' q: t2 E2 O6 v' m9 z% l0 E
we can't blow him :cool:

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, i% s* r' Z5 j2 L: punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 h4 _1 [/ C$ \. o, t自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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5 [1 u- r2 h$ s7 V' jFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?7 ^% g2 O6 @+ [6 I, L" g$ t, \
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:. e& O3 O  f: A" u; B: ~2 l

2 j- I2 A2 d8 C- O- Tsing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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7 ^& {3 \2 c, D/ Aoh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
, A* S  R5 y% @pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:2 {7 t( R# K  J! b! h8 ]& v: a

& M7 F/ W& w  KGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
/ X/ R; G  q1 T9 Y4 Q# ]如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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- f2 Z5 ?3 R. q& \; C; X停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.