jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- t  m$ V0 F9 _5 ^$ s! V3 X
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架) \' _% u8 Y% ?1 J) ?1 @: o7 U
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' J  K# s/ a) ]/ G! wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 w9 Y0 n# R+ D9 {4 T+ \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% m1 M( r5 n) z" }4 J3 Z. i. m
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" k' h& Z; x' O9 M, g& D( h+ R1 omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 I  q" x- E' e9 q- i' pbut why jesus need to do this?; T! C* r" ~  w' V
punsihment for what???0 W( f0 `( h2 |# t8 @, x1 M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  Q2 O6 g$ s0 P: f- z1 u" x! W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) Y/ b/ T& x& s1 a4 Q: e0 U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( }! c2 J+ v0 d! @2 A' m, q0 r
what will u do???3 L7 Q  s7 V" z3 d, K7 D& Q$ X- u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 E+ d% ~4 }, Q/ \- w
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& z0 D! e. \: W- N+ O6 H# A7 ?8 icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! d/ u2 Y0 T/ N$ }! J+ j5 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: K0 v) `; ~) ?" `+ Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 i5 i1 `% ?1 q* [
but why jesus need to do this?* p! B5 e: {$ I# F4 q5 q
punsihment for what???
' ^: L7 X0 V. F! m" }4 ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* q7 w8 F7 c: ^+ L/ t0 U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. k8 R+ l4 @  ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 r% L% E+ C  H$ b$ A% s5 J' Gwhat will u do???* e) _* |3 b* [& H% N
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 S$ o9 N* I' ?& G* \$ m& T4 S; E+ @0 m

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7 @8 {: ?& f# e" k$ Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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+ T9 x6 l  ^, j/ U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! r8 H* T$ q3 g9 n- l

. F! }" @& T! |( i, S$ ^4 p) r議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: q4 e# C( t" _  a) Ahonestly, if there is jesus2 H$ p+ U( y" e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 o( n; ^! c' }- m: {( K5 x' D
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% L' o: o3 F( a) Byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& m  Z$ @' `% Sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% ~0 s% v- K( y6 |- Z4 L
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 B" e* A' w& @4 {8 G. G
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 w) B" J  L" v7 d6 J) |" ]
bro singgeihot and rest365days/ \7 @) C1 V- z
honestly, if there is jesus
5 b; `+ u3 R  ?/ \" ^' ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* [1 E% D1 c9 c- o" i9 D7 w. m
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ p$ y( {' U8 W& Wotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 |- u3 k# W% Q, a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: