Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:0 x2 h; k# C9 a$ D( Z' s0 }
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
$ Z; ^, J8 t! \9 j, O又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ H4 N5 U" r% g) N; W5 d4 x- X
道理我知道好多只係做吳到  x  _+ L1 P& B( x+ O0 l
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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6 D" T' r6 c: ]% a& o6 FNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 K& v1 z6 d% D9 A. ]5 A! v. |
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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5 T# g, K* W4 D, D: z  kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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# C, h$ m! K! e" W% sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 @5 ~) \% x$ N# B, z
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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5 B# P% I, `* L真的!!這不是反話  s0 I& [" o5 t/ y
因為我是情感比理性強的人3 Y7 l1 W* s3 n2 m. ^
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...' K( e4 ?; E; t% _4 {4 X: D5 P
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% e1 H0 n- q; G. Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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- Y2 w" X0 O/ M; F, B  ?, f& B) cWhat a statement we have here?
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$ A  L0 a, c$ ]( F2 i7 PJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.( M! W8 v1 U# T2 u, ?

0 Z/ l" y3 D% cLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ W. B" K& s2 c3 f: X

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ y1 y9 E( g5 \# C) Q建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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2 l1 X% n: w0 V2 ?8 M, ["不信也沒損失"
9 L3 h2 `7 a" D: B$ K/ dYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ h8 Y8 x. w2 {% A; r( [4 obut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......: F- D- ?7 X' j
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it's starting because we have sins......0 w- W: u  Q+ f2 e
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( `7 p0 ?5 w8 B" E3 Kour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* E  b, M7 C$ N+ Y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~9 \/ d6 l2 E+ p" @" d& U
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,. p& I: \- w% h' h- d3 H
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具9 Y* F8 h& e+ f6 a% S
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ H' V) B$ |" m$ O5 e2 ?
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,3 }" x0 d" S: n4 U9 e. S
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤) U1 O- F, @, ~3 w. t8 }" H
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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3 T4 P3 s: V5 e6 G% K6 k3 _3 B信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!% D3 P8 b1 ^/ |5 t, |

% p$ Q1 ?9 d# I9 ~, \* E) f9 d不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!# N' B6 |' _4 k/ m8 U: x
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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; S1 \; a, B4 Q( B$ s同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 E& H; ^  {) c0 Q3 k+ p& z.............信耶穌... ...

! u9 y) S/ E) }" L' KRegarding the resurrection....0 l4 P. v  ]+ u; W4 W
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....% T7 U" q/ J/ a$ ]  _% B6 Q
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.