jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# z  I( h4 W. M# y" n
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% g8 x) l+ T" h$ k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' o# ]. w: R% s7 I% W5 _
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ f4 T5 E6 G. s& l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 P- r/ D- L8 P6 ^0 M/ nbut why jesus need to do this?4 Q3 F5 |  m' \3 ]  ~! u
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" D8 }! p7 f; M& k0 u- s; K# }
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7 k& j$ z% t0 m$ a4 {8 Q3 r但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ e5 q7 ]* J* L( N9 o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% c- R/ `4 b8 S5 \5 g, g* y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- ^3 M  ^% Q6 ]2 d( |& Kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  m3 O( t$ m# ~# ~; q! Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! C& ?9 ^8 Y; Fbut why jesus need to do this?
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; m2 S. V7 U; e3 a  f  F' u( efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; d9 x( V& ]/ J9 S! itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 \5 w+ f2 p7 I. s( V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  q* m, d/ Q6 Y5 Twhat will u do???# j/ H/ \' F8 Y1 \9 o# r! l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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# T: h0 t& J. y: g1 [8 u" [( T# Asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: `) M3 C: w1 w0 c3 H" T; U0 ~
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 n1 O; D7 g) `3 B- P6 d: W2 y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 ?4 K6 u( `9 S# L9 `; v, |: @5 o
honestly, if there is jesus  Q; E/ u6 U8 V) q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ f( n" J9 o- b% Uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life" J; j" _& G3 P8 P0 T
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 v$ ^: u6 N* x3 V5 L% |' a
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 M" i8 X0 s- [: i  y2 cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 }8 a* ?, v) _1 o( `bro singgeihot and rest365days
  }8 f' b  f7 F9 e* d  i8 Uhonestly, if there is jesus& K  f- X3 ?2 P6 `' W
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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8 Y4 s( k3 j4 c. Z# ~0 d% w; X4 qunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics6 a- J1 u+ u& o6 V- Y; l6 g5 {5 o. }
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- A8 a! W2 [/ y5 {5 z
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: