jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 u% \/ ?/ ~/ ]. n) e" |0 P3 [仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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/ L5 j6 \; Z% g2 u- C$ gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! t3 `- z2 O* g# o/ e. t% ]+ U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 F3 f: v3 y1 R+ i1 x( qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
) f3 `# t* |% Z0 `2 E$ [: tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' v2 q/ u! o* X; [4 _/ G9 P% v
but why jesus need to do this?
( j( J/ O* B2 V1 u3 {% O$ n: {punsihment for what???8 D# J5 u  `  S9 L+ Z9 J# l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* L2 b, A9 i6 `" Q) ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 H7 c- u" d5 L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 V( O8 H$ g# D( y9 n8 `3 owhat will u do???
* ^3 P9 h/ i/ wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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( ~; u1 B/ _8 `/ d+ `% M9 Y% J但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. y0 R3 T7 l7 k+ u* a$ `7 u3 z
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ D2 q& i2 }8 }( K7 rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( Y+ R4 T  I* }0 M7 n$ ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 g+ U) _5 d$ wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment9 ^) k3 I  x. F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # s1 C& L1 {0 V1 p8 L
but why jesus need to do this?$ g/ _2 ^0 c% @* \+ X6 B5 }" O! N
punsihment for what???" N. A! L8 g- L* _
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( O9 P8 ^4 x9 C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& ?5 E& c  a5 K6 \but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  U9 b0 P, ~. ywhat will u do???
; K: \1 Q; v- c" m& Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! |, B" [8 r, [4 I5 V- @/ V

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ [* t5 |; H; c4 J4 o

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " I7 }" e# H) b' m, q7 u. L- m; U* {* K' S

/ R" h' J  A( a+ z5 f5 J' c" V1 f議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  ^! s0 |. m$ A: P
honestly, if there is jesus
( i6 q' p! u( V. E9 f  m) S' A, M2 ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  R1 O& g# b2 Z" g6 d  G  ~5 Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ e/ W8 ~: }. e: _1 v" f

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7 ^2 p- \/ V; W3 P# p5 n/ M5 l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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3 y" [! k; _1 h4 J0 l! Q, Pyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 y( I+ [: b- i& `" z! j
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( Z; d2 b$ y6 J
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  u+ @" Y  y7 @now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: L2 k8 L% S( ^5 tbro singgeihot and rest365days
6 O; P7 D7 u/ n, w0 q' fhonestly, if there is jesus
3 e: a7 x' H" Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 T, v/ T/ I1 A8 f- n/ s  ^we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ d; U1 }5 h2 k+ h' F
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* D  N6 ^& w/ J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: