singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".) `3 h# ?  p6 x# [) J

9 Z$ F. J2 a+ b9 k# T& _) `相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:6 |+ h* w; L, B5 P# b
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psycho is hard~.~# z! k' M& G/ o9 e8 m2 T
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:  `+ u) `& y2 @  N8 J' _- F- T* p2 |

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) E7 r! Y. C/ H多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣6 }8 N/ M! K% T8 j5 r3 Q! r. Z5 R
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
2 n$ t' E8 @9 O以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀" z3 v2 M: w" B! K: u6 g' Z, \

( p, `4 A2 x9 C" H8 n' h2 S2 G5 B哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣5 g  F7 ?* I" [9 g! ?
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:% }4 {9 g1 y! @; z# |8 D0 T" g

" w" g5 K* i5 v' ~哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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$ _( y1 N0 H0 u' f# \! O9 j哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢+ q: A% I: Q; H- ]2 b9 \8 Z* L
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:0 C4 `9 h, Y' ]. ^* u. n
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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2 g0 Y& n5 _5 j* ihaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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3 [" d, Y: \& m, Z3 vagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
, J- o, k, q& F, k( r( Vbesides, crap! interest to ask u
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