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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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- N, n$ r/ O6 ]# cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( k- Q9 t4 m$ y) P8 x! d! ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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" E; K9 M* K9 _+ c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( q0 e/ f) |$ B+ V* \& i

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1 g+ M9 y/ M+ V1 [7 z) b3 m# I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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* k, i% z9 a/ c8 S6 E9 u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 P3 r8 Y& A3 v8 I; G8 L$ v  l
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. [- }, R; E! E: ^7 w

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; z5 q5 q& |& i) _% _打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) l1 v5 Y# ]! VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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, _$ f2 T, |; Z他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 J  r# ], I; b; b+ h
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1 D" ^0 z0 `* m+ m/ N他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% @! M9 X# g& B9 L0 l8 H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# E6 R+ ^4 `. ]5 O, \

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; m% }$ T( T! ~* X# J* K

( g/ _1 @& P2 V6 g! Jyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......