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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- H7 F' \8 g  G( `7 q/ q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! ~; H" x& T' p' m$ j

: d; v0 G5 ^! fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) D! {$ \5 I+ v* l! ~: SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  i% Z5 [) c4 h: O6 ~( {- g& l' ?/ j
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus' j" o$ I2 s8 X7 L

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: j$ S0 c# Y0 W" T* E* fIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- K: f6 |5 z: `! J$ O, b+ Y

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他比孔明更偉大

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% H4 Y% p. a7 M& _& s# NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 {4 ?3 o1 r( Q+ a( a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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  L/ J# B0 A! e4 }9 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 G3 y& O( \$ L1 c) h
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......