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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ s9 R! I3 m! n1 _- z, N

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( C/ ]1 w$ \& S1 w

& h0 n/ V0 {; c. Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 ?( e" c/ N) w% v9 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 \+ E% }# N2 l. d2 CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" h  D9 E. ]9 a/ d: D
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) Z: ^3 I! n: h9 e* R: X# l) W" B
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- X5 |+ e  [+ o' x
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: q, T: g* {% n. W4 w* ]% A2 O
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 V# ~# J# u% dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 @, s0 }# z& |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ E2 ~& |, m+ l2 [
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1 U3 P& |  B! m7 d* D) a# Y$ LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 a/ d3 U3 [: t' `

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' R" V' X: ~5 F: y9 O6 a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 c. }6 S, |  `, T) F* M2 _

  }# ^8 m" ~$ b$ Gyes, that's the point.

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