ilovefuckingyou

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-9 03:33 PM:
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1 i5 C+ g' Y" j如果神在心中
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% g/ \: n9 Y6 [1 M5 x0 }8 Q; a9 b咁又何來 "唔信咪無囉!"
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前後矛盾=.="

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* g! z* M8 I) @7 B: h即係,神,只係存在係心中(自己創造出黎!)俾自己祟拜!1 k5 _7 x" {/ |$ y) l
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你唔信,咪無囉!

tung kin wah

To fishball and other brothers beliving in god,
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& r5 K, {0 c+ H, x8 u! J: sFirst of all I agree with Gretzky's statement that "A Supereme Being (whatever God/gods) DOES NOT NEED US to believe in order to prove his/her/their existence." therefore I can't disprove its existence.4 R! T% n3 l+ y- i) f4 v# W& |) N

- P6 D: e- H% k# z- t! EHowever, if he doesn't help with our further understanding of ourselves, (or even inhibiting ourselves from finding the truth) you have to choose your way : understand more but also further understanding our inaduacy, or STOP EVERYTHING  and feeling satisified with believal on the god ? I choose the way of science so I've just borrowed 3 statistics books from library learning how to have induction from the collected data.
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About your statement : "要造到這個條件的機率是10x10^-450" , I study Physics as my first degree, I've confident on understanding every scientific statement, they all have some ASSUMPTIONS. I never heard of that before, would you please let me know where did you get this statement ? I would like to look at the underlying assuptions before I belive on it " ~% T! F* O7 @

% P$ D8 ?$ w0 [% hI recently read some books on 'silicon life'. Some researchers using the computers to simulate the possibility of evolution. Do you know the result ? They give some basic circuit elements  ( just like amino acid ) , some selection criteria like having all high freq. signal pass and weaken all low freq.signals ( like those defined by our environment ) , and let the computer invent anything by random and competiton.... The result is that, ONLY 1xx STEPS ( i.e. 1xx offsprings), the computer INVENTED the perfect high pass filter we designed. Without our help, the nature can always find its path ! 2 e, q" B7 {) k" D1 t
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If one day we put the solar panel (葉綠素) , logic gate (安基酸)...etc together and let them evolve by themselves, then the silicon life may be created. Believing in nature, we got to compete with them and we may not win in that case. We are the creation, but do you think we are the god ?
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9 ?6 n8 D- I% T0 o1 [7 ~7 J冥冥中自有主載, 人是很渺小的....

austin666

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-9 04:01 PM:
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即係,神,只係存在係心中(自己創造出黎!)俾自己祟拜!5 H# ?( \2 K8 f/ d6 v; C( g7 d
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你唔信,咪無囉!

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(自己創造出黎!)俾自己祟拜!
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5 h0 h1 N/ @" T6 |& K3 Q# R6 m& \5 G果D好似叫 "神經病"............
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神點可能由人創造出黎

ilovefuckingyou

Originally posted by fishball at 2005-4-9 01:34 AM:
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這世上有一位神
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那是說人類只是一堆垃圾?!
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那人的靈魂何在??( ?& {" T% Y5 z2 T, I* H
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理性:! U( G  a* B: [+ ]/ ?( K
我以世上第一個細胞為例7 ~, S1 {9 w! J: i, X  k) S
要在現今進化論堅持第一個細胞的出現方法
( y* ^7 H6 \8 N" h$ p1 w' B要造到這個條件的機率是10x10^-450
4 @; |0 t/ N2 w; n4 _( G7 |) R- N以地球的體積，發生這個事件是不可能!!% z8 G7 q$ J! ~5 ^: w
那第進化出一個人的機率更是極極極低
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有一篇"必有一位神"的文章，在當中作了一個比喻：
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8 B& k% V0 t5 d點解不可能?1萬億分1既機會唔等於唔可能!* L; c4 d% A2 ?; {

: b+ `1 ]) R: l) Q% h! T當然要人去估生命點樣係幾百億地球出現,係好困難,亦無從証明. 5 n( t+ H% i% F1 N2 t
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不過如果話所以野都係神製造出黎...我相信機會真係等於0!

ilovefuckingyou

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-9 04:07 PM:  S; z  Y0 y8 v' a5 I
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(自己創造出黎!)俾自己祟拜!/ A6 Q% r8 |8 p8 l  u3 C2 m
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果D好似叫 "神經病"............; C' ^9 d1 a# a  b) H, }  R2 n
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神點可能由人創造出黎

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因為根本就無神!: T% ?8 m9 I8 L7 B) P" {, u

1 S- B$ v- H. u& }如果話有,都只係存在係你既腦入面,實際根本唔存在係世上!

ilovefuckingyou

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-9 04:07 PM:7 ]* q1 ^; M/ y, _: v
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(自己創造出黎!)俾自己祟拜!
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神點可能由人創造出黎

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# d% W% E8 q3 m% B其實你講得o岩! 每1個宗教都係甘樣由人創造出黎!

大家樂1234

我信佛多d

RyuII

但點解冇人信神係高智慧生物(外星人)?

inpennhouse

唔信 你睇下教宗都死左la 死之前重要咁辛苦 又唔見jesus去打救佢

cyhk

好似係度傾有冇神唔係幾好, 個人信仰問題, 好難有結論,' y4 }! y1 F1 m7 n2 n
所以呢個話題, 我從來唔強人接收我的睇法, 但又唔鍾意別人強我接受佢的睇法,3 G5 s' d: n" e5 E0 B
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對宗教信仰爭辯結果, 可能是宗教衝突, 甚至宗教戰爭,8 b) m8 j$ U4 q0 G
總之都係個句, 河水不犯井水, 各自修行, 互相尊重, 咁就天下太平9 t+ Q6 P) w4 K) V8 M8 i

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