jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 x! _3 ?: {5 r- f) g3 A  ~: T
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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; R2 m7 U9 U2 i7 S* _8 U1 Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 E# h0 K! I6 V) r+ v+ b( y8 b4 @" T& ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; s% l. l- Y, R3 W/ t
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 \; z0 Q2 ?$ Y0 ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 i% k  c4 ~1 f# h+ x0 S0 Y
but why jesus need to do this?
+ i& ?5 V; z" j  l1 S3 dpunsihment for what???
0 Z/ b) J7 {# rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* F2 l5 O1 D( }2 k3 |) d$ p# Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 Y! E1 P  d6 u" {: S7 \+ A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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8 Y6 [4 U$ z4 ]/ M咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; f3 H- Y1 u. n" k但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" p( R% q/ A( Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. R2 V4 n8 [4 i+ g0 H7 A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ {  T3 v4 ^1 y0 P/ I% a2 qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
( B: s) F0 X4 ^3 `- ^* emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! Q: R2 [2 q. n$ [! t: f! z4 ~
but why jesus need to do this?
0 @- c: t) o5 u, wpunsihment for what???) ], B/ l% Y, J8 F, m. ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ h4 }7 K1 m" G4 btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! m$ Z8 K( l$ v4 \
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: `5 r( Z( f# {what will u do???
- O7 j' m$ f; @- J% T$ i$ E7 p9 Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: K: Y4 h. O' x. J  h9 C% @
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 L7 [5 l: w& O9 J% E# M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. r$ f/ `# i: B2 g  V
honestly, if there is jesus
$ s# B- Z! t, v; r7 D- U" D1 Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 x4 `0 c; B7 u. ~" ?we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
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so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ Z6 M& q# M/ Y& ^
bro singgeihot and rest365days2 j  V6 ]; Z& N
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 d$ o7 x2 n- ywe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
, d3 V. ~2 i+ [$ Qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ N- x- ~' e0 {! u1 y2 }
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: