singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".3 x) U. [) X4 Z, R' o/ B) b. g
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:1 u0 a1 D& z1 k: e! K3 Y4 ]! @

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
, p. T  A. v/ T# j1 U! Q* Z; whaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
  J2 S) q$ O  |# ui'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:, u- O; P7 H  [! {8 z$ M
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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. `# F1 ^. X. m* y0 z) H- q我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了   _. T& C! d! @) B7 d
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀* H9 B- f  r2 t$ @' r' Y- ?, d- b( b
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣7 T7 w# W6 n4 a/ x" E$ O
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我 ...

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# x8 [: X, H6 p* g; u哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.0 K$ L" g$ S) Y( A  W! _- Y) |

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:2 N1 k" E* Q& V# \2 }! e9 N
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psycho is h ...

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1 ?6 h7 G6 U# {7 chaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:) A8 f8 {1 x8 R- V% Q( r, s: g
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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6 s) o( d! I# Y' A哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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! V. Y% y& y3 {哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢0 D! |5 V: j/ o6 \$ A6 L" I* s
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持6 i1 t2 e9 d# A6 L* p! o: p3 u% C; C

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:5 m& s6 N1 z" ~1 h  m& y" c
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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3 m. I# N) y3 G# |5 D- `# n/ V2 F4 vhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)8 {( W6 H6 K# r
pls enjoy# [2 w* X2 l; \! }+ `: X4 o) ?

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Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la( e: W' _  A! F+ W( U
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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